New DPS skills

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Originally Posted by RulerOfPotaoes

SMN could actually get a capstone lv100 OGCD nuke type of skill that's available to use after a full Bahamut and Phoenix rotation. Might be something like a channel Ramuh nuke.

I just see them prioritizing fixing/adding more to SMNs simplicity, by updating current skills and adding a big new flashy skill at lv100. Over adding 3 new summons and keeping SMN as it is.

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The issue is, why would "Ramuh" be such a powerful skill compared to any other summon?
Like, it doesn't make much sens.

I'm convinced it's just FesterII too, they'd never showcase a "big main" skill on that. If we do keep Ramuh, or 3 new summons, it's gotta be in the skill showcase.

The issue with introducing Ramuh, to me, would be that it should be a minor summon like Garuda, Ifrit and Titan.
If you add 1 minor alone, it doesn't fit anywhere in the rotation unless it does something like "replace your next summon by Ramuh".

But then, if you add Ramuh, why just Ramuh? Why not Leviathan and Shiva to complete the 6 elements.

This could fit neatly, Bahamut > Garuda/Ifrit/Titan > Pheonix > Ramuh/Levi/Shiva and add some complexity to that job.

What would need to be considered is the dev cost. 3 new stance would probably be costy, we're still talking about at least 3 new animations, possibly more.
On top of that, there'd be the issue of Shiva.

Lore wise, you do not summon shiva, you become shiva. Therefor, what would make the most sens would be that shiva becomes a Reaper like ability where you assume Shiva's form.
But this would probably be very costly in term of developpement.

I agree with you when you say, they'd probably priortize adding more to smn simplicity.

Personally, assuming 3 extra summon would be impossible, I'd go for Pheonix and Bahamut having an extra button to make the burst phase less brain dead.

I'm hoping that reaper skill is a upgraded aoe skill and not the level 100 skill. More than likely it will be used before communio so expect a 6 dot bar

Oh I used Ramuh as an example. But im definitely leaning toward a Big Boom OGCD at lv100 with more stuff added to SMNs simplicity.

3 different summons after Phoenix would be nicer tho.

I can't imagine that no new summons will be implemented for level 100.
A summon has been added in every expsansion (if we exclude HW's Bahamut trance)

HW: Bahamut Trance
SB: Demi-Bahamut
ShB: Demi-Phoenix
EW: Ifrit / Titan / Garuda

so I can deduce that something will be added in this case too... not just upgrades to existing spells

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Originally Posted by Reflear

I can't imagine that no new summons will be implemented for level 100.
A summon has been added in every expsansion (if we exclude HW's Bahamut trance)

HW: Bahamut Trance
SB: Demi-Bahamut
ShB: Demi-Phoenix
EW: Ifrit / Titan / Garuda

so I can deduce that something will be added in this case too... not just upgrades to existing spells

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I mean... If you consider Ifrit / Titan / Garuda to be a new summon, then they can simply upgrade their visual furthermore and make them look like the one in Eden's raid.
Level 90 skill is litterally a visual (and potency) upgrade.

Only SB and ShB had new summons, that's it.

I really hope we get some new summon, but saying our lv 90 skills are new summons is really something I wouldn't agree on.
It's by far the laziest lv 90 skill/upgrade among every single job.

Somebody datamined the Benchmark and posted a pasterbin, on ffxivdiscussion subreddit, of just some strings of code.

I'm taking with a grain of salt because stuff changes, but according to the posters who can read more into those strings, SMN seems to be getting a new Demi after Firebird Trance, and it seems to be a new version of Bahamut, SolBahamut or somethign like that lol. And nothing related to new gemstones. As well as potential unkown upgrades to Fester and Searing Light.

I just wanted Ultima, I didn't think I was asking for much.

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Originally Posted by seolhyun

maybe ramuh, shiva, leviathan after phoenix? but also fester and painflare have lightning in them already so it could just be an upgrade for one of those.

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it's a possiblity

take this with a grain of salt since I can't personally validate it, but someone on reddit posted some datamined info from the trailer, and it showed enkindle bahamut skill transforming to enkindle phoenix transforming into a third skill. If true, this is pretty huge.

it implies not only a third burst summon, but also potentially the death of the two minute DPS meta (unless the lego skills no longer take up a full minute) but also means that the new summons could be locked behind the third enkindle phase.

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Originally Posted by Raikai

Somebody datamined the Benchmark and posted a pasterbin, on ffxivdiscussion subreddit, of just some strings of code.

I'm taking with a grain of salt because stuff changes, but according to the posters who can read more into those strings, SMN seems to be getting a new Demi after Firebird Trance, and it seems to be a new version of Bahamut, SolBahamut or somethign like that lol. And nothing related to new gemstones. As well as potential unkown upgrades to Fester and Searing Light.

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We get ultimate Bahamut golden!

Well I guess it's better than nothing xD

I really really hope we get some new skills for the 1min burst phase... I don't mind SMN being easier than other, but atm it is too easy...
Like, there's just simply no progression to the job. You can't feel like you're doing good by optimising anything like on BLM or even RDM with using your melee combo for movement.
The only thing you have to worry about is ifrit... 2 cast once a minute... Samurai has more cast !

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Originally Posted by Raikai

Somebody datamined the Benchmark and posted a pasterbin, on ffxivdiscussion subreddit, of just some strings of code.

I'm taking with a grain of salt because stuff changes, but according to the posters who can read more into those strings, SMN seems to be getting a new Demi after Firebird Trance, and it seems to be a new version of Bahamut, SolBahamut or somethign like that lol. And nothing related to new gemstones. As well as potential unkown upgrades to Fester and Searing Light.

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i wanna cry.....