A Character Death That Made Endwalker Worse [6.0 Spoilers]

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Originally Posted by DreadCrow

I've never understood why this is a bad thing. It's not like a lot of people who do bad things in real life have deep, complex reasons.

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I think that it's an understated strength of FFXIV that they can write such strong 'simple' villains, that are just focused on one thing and that's it. If all you need out of a character is to be the villain of a specific story, sometimes the best angle is to just make a character that can do that one role really well and that's it. Nidhogg, Vauthry, Yotsuyu, even Meteion to a degree, basically every single job and raid quest antagonist fits the bill. Sometimes you don't need depth from a character, you just need a really good villain that you hate; sure, they can't do much else, but maybe they don't need to.

To a degree, Zenos in Endwalker shows the struggles of trying to make a focused character like that long-term, though. He's actually better suited than most to getting further stories, because ultimately his focus was us (imagine trying to write for Nidhogg in any other expansion and you get what I mean), but that doesn't really give him that much more to actually do, so much as more places to do it in.

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Originally Posted by Aneshda

It is not a new Saga or a new Story.

There is just nothing new, nothing exciting in Dawntrail.
I fear that Yoshi ruined the Game by killing all Foes, destroying Garlemald and removing nearly everything from the Ancients. The Twelve was the last piece of Mystery we had in Game.

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It is the start of a new story, is, what i heared. Zodiac arc ended and a new story beginns. How long that will be is something, i dont know.
Where would even be the problem with a 1 expansion story? Wow did this until now.^^ And it was the same with all expansion until Shb+EW. Where Shb build up more for the things, happens in Ew. And even than gave it us mostly only backstorys. ARR to Shb had mostly 1 times storys, where it barely connected to anything else.

I dont know what you hoped for a new Expansion. But at last from the concept arts do i like the areas, where whe are going (ok, the maps are rarely that interessting ingame, but that lies mostly on the fact, that a mmo isnt the right game, for creating big, living maps, aside of wandering animal). And the base story is a grounded on. Ok, i dont care for them to. Because i dont know them. But, i give them at last a chance. I mean, all whe knowed about Ew was, that whe will fight zodiac. And yet, became whe a nice story that was more as simply zodiac (only downside was, that Zodiac wasnt the main enemy and, that whe never meet him, whe found only his body).

About the sion:
There wasnt a good moment to kill them (except, by endsinger). Krilie would maked only sense in stormblood. I allready sayed, that im to think, that whe should have new people now (let the sions showing up as guest chara for a short time).
Zenos maked sense to kill, for finishing his story. A peacefull life or the life of a mercenary didnt fit him. I only hoped, that he had a more meaningfull connection to Zero.

What i agree is to, that its questionable, that whe removed all old things from eozera (that whe know). I even feared, that whe would heal/destroy the World of darkness in this expansion and would remove the most common enemy for all people. The scenario i thinked would come for the next expansion was, that Zeronas would destroy the boundary of the worlds. And that whe would have to find a solution for that. And that whe maybe visit more of the World of darkness (a reverse isekai story, whe had isekai in shb, i had thinked, that whe would have now a story with more visitors of other world).

But what have whe now?
A new continent, where new myth and old things can exist (or maybe new things, why do whe need allways old dangerous things). Whe even have the name of 1 of that thing.

Good, its your opinion.
But the last thing you could do is at last, to give the expansion a chance. Its possible, that it can be nice.

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Originally Posted by DreadCrow

I've never understood why this is a bad thing. It's not like a lot of people who do bad things in real life have deep, complex reasons.

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Perhaps they don't have complex reasons, but they usually have some kind of understandable and relatable reason, even if it is a bad reason.
Even most of the bad villains in fiction manage to be two-dimensional cardboard cutouts, which is more than Zenos managed.