Why They Return to put Exclusive item for TOP 100 again?

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Originally Posted by Dionysius

You're assuming people don't do Ranked for Trophy Crystals or Series level, I say it's the opposite. If they put more stuff to buy with Trophy Crystals, more people will play Ranked thus "incentivizing" it in a more effective way than making exclusive stuff to attract elitist and smug people into it.

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If you truly think that a tiny extra surplus of Trophy Crystals at the end of a season and the fundamentally equal Battle Pass EXP is what drives Ranked participation in the first place then you are out of your goddamn mind.

Yes you can get Series EXP and Trophy Crystals just as well from Ranked as you can from Casual, but that is not justification, that is an issue. If you see a benefit from having more competent games, great! But other than that Series EXP and Trophy Crystals are no more reason to do Ranked than to do Casual. If they improve Trophy Crystal vendor, it will drive more engagement in PvP in general with Ranked only receiving a scrap share of this, due to path of least resistence being Casual.

This isn't me assuming shit, this is me comparing both modes and their rewards, restrictions and benefits.

Also lowkey annoyed of the bullshit narrative that exclusive stuff purely attracts elitists as you call them.

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Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim

I fail to see the issue. :)

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Of course you wouldn't, you're one of the sods that want feast how it was back
Getting everything while casuals got nothing.

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Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim

Also lowkey annoyed of the bullshit narrative that exclusive stuff purely attracts elitists as you call them.

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that's just how people see it when they see square keep handing you things
people are quite tired of it.

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Originally Posted by Towa-Musa

that's just how people see it when they see square keep handing you things
people are quite tired of it.

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Pretty sure SE has given casuals more things to access over the last four major patches than Ranked has ever gotten. Not saying it as a reason you deserve to get less since adding more casual rewards to the game (more pvp vendor items/better series rewards) is just plain better for everyone both groups. However, a reward for people who manage to get into diamond/crystal/top 100 is fine.

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Originally Posted by Astralrisk

Pretty sure SE has given casuals more things to access over the last four major patches than Ranked has ever gotten. Not saying it as a reason you deserve to get less since adding more casual rewards to the game (more pvp vendor items/better series rewards) is just plain better for everyone both groups. However, a reward for people who manage to get into diamond/crystal/top 100 is fine.

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You clearly were not around for the 18 seasons of feast before the overhaul.
see that armor Rein is wearing? Thats only one of the sets you could get from ranked at the time and casuals got nothing
now that casuals are getting almost everything we asked for ranked players are mad and want their exclusives back.

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Originally Posted by Towa-Musa

You clearly were not around for the 18 seasons of feast before the overhaul.
see that armor Rein is wearing? Thats only one of the sets you could get from ranked at the time and casuals got nothing
now that casuals are getting almost everything we asked for ranked players are mad and want their exclusives back.

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I feel like I should post this page on the other thread for my post so I can highlight that Astralrisk is actually right, there is more for wolfmark/casual.

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...h-stress/page4

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Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim

I feel like I should post this page on the other thread for my post so I can highlight that Astralrisk is actually right, there is more for wolfmark/casual.

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...h-stress/page4

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after how many expacs lmfao bro get out of here, you're just talking nonsense.

casuals got like one set per expac and ranked got like 2 or 3 HIGH QUALITY sets.

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Originally Posted by Towa-Musa

after how many expacs lmfao bro get out of here, you're just talking nonsense.

casuals got like one set per expac and ranked got like 2 or 3 HIGH QUALITY sets.

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2-3 series in ARR, 2 in HW, 1 in Stormblood, 2 in Shadowbringers, not counting Garo. Each series containing unique variants of armour and potentially even weapons. VS 6-11 armours from Ranked, depending whether you count recolours.

Sure we can talk about set quality, those may differ a fair bit, but they did improve over time.

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Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim

2-3 series in ARR, 2 in HW, 1 in Stormblood, 2 in Shadowbringers, not counting Garo. Each series containing unique variants of armour and potentially even weapons. VS 6-11 armours from Ranked, depending whether you count recolours.

Sure we can talk about set quality, those may differ a fair bit, but they did improve over time.

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does not change the fact that ranked got WAAAAAAY more then casuals, yall got mounts, weapons, armors, recolors. don't play the semantic game with me.

and even IF you say we got more, its because it was all ugly JOB SPESIFIC gear with some of them being lazy recolors, feast on the other hand... pretty sure you can use shadowstriker with every role/class.

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Originally Posted by Towa-Musa

You clearly were not around for the 18 seasons of feast before the overhaul.
see that armor Rein is wearing? Thats only one of the sets you could get from ranked at the time and casuals got nothing
now that casuals are getting almost everything we asked for ranked players are mad and want their exclusives back.

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I am aware of what it was like before the 6.1 rework. However, if we look at the way they are handling it now there has been far more rewards added, and they have added some old ranked feast rewards into that pool. Again, I think having more rewards for the casual majority is welcomed since it benefits everyone. Yet having at least one incentive for people to go into ranked outside of the prestigious value is not bad either. Every form of hard content in this game has that incentive, don't know why it shouldn't apply to ranked pvp.