Faith, Dynamis, Aether, Summoning

Emotions do influence primal summonings (Most notably when Ga Bu summons Titan) and aether is also described as being capable of being manipulated by raw emotion (Such as with DRK)...but both bits of lore were established before dynamis was even conceptualized, so unless explicitly confirmed I feel reluctant to immediately attribute any magicks or phenomena involving emotion to dynamis and rather believe there's some degree of overlap in that regard.

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

Emotions do influence primal summonings (Most notably when Ga Bu summons Titan) and aether is also described as being capable of being manipulated by raw emotion (Such as with DRK)...but both bits of lore were established before dynamis was even conceptualized, so unless explicitly confirmed I feel reluctant to immediately attribute any magicks or phenomena involving emotion to dynamis and rather believe there's some degree of overlap in that regard.

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Yeah, most of what gets attributed to dynamis that isn't credited with that in the actual game just strikes me as completely understandable without them; nobody was saying that Dark Knight made no sense before Endwalker, after all.

Even the one I do stand behind, the Totentantz, I don't just stand behind because I looked at it and went 'yep, that looks like dynamis'. It mostly stands out to me because if you talk to random NPCs around Radz-at-Han, one of them will describe the Blasphemies in exactly the same terms that the dancer troupe describes the Totentantz, and with Thavnair having a formalized if esoteric study into the concept* before the sky exploded, it seems like that's not just coincidence that two different Hannish sources use matching descriptions.

*Still a little annoyed that everyone just stopped using the term 'akasa' the moment 'dynamis' got introduced, by the way; it feels like marginalizing Thavnair for no reason, and 'akasa' is just a much more interesting word to say in conversation.

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Originally Posted by Eisi

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Entelechies are not the only entities capable of interacting with Dynamis. The tank limit break that we use during the fight with the Endsinger has been identified as a manifestation of Dynamis. The only limitation that we've been told about is based on aetheric density. Meteion comments that we appear to be similar to entelechies in terms of density, but Hermes clarifies that we're not the same. One major difference that makes us different from Entelechies is that we don't experience others' emotions as our own. That ends up being a critical point in Ultima Thule, as the emotions we bring with us override the despair of the place, whereas an entelechy would be overwhelmed by it.

In the case of the Amaurotines, their higher aetheric density means that they can't interact directly with Dynamis or be directly affected by it. During the Final Days of Amaurot, the Amaurotines themselves didn't transform into blasphemies, because they cannot be directly affected by it. Their creations transformed instead, because they were at a lower aetheric density, and the creations turned on their masters. There are interesting implications around this, though. The Role Quests had us hunt down all the 'original' Blasphemies who initiated the Final Days to each region. Which raises the question of who or what was the very first Blasphemy that brought on the downfall of Amaurot? It couldn't be an Amaurotine, because they wouldn't have transformed even if they were in despair. Was it a creation frustrated with their living conditions? Or could it be a despairing soul that was inadvertently fused to a creation, as described in the Phoinix story? Or perhaps it was a hemitheos.

The Elpis blooms lead scholars to deduce the existence of Dynamis. It's not that you're using Dynamis to change the colour of the flower. The reason the flower is able to manifest a colour change is because it is the source of that Dynamis effect, not the person holding it. That's why other flowers don't change colour in response to your emotions. The reason that your feelings are able to influence the Elpis blooms is because they are entelechies, much like how Meteion's emotional state changes when she's around Hermes.