Gold Saucer issues

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Originally Posted by DrWho2010

gold saucer is meant to be played over the lifetime of the games entirety. meaning it will always be there, it is never going away, therefore it should pay out as little as possible because if you get what you want right away you will stop going.

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It takes 10 years to get a chance of less than 15% of obtaining the jackpot.
This is how badly the odds are. If we take the lifetime of the best possible online games, we dont exceed 30 years. And even in that duration, the odds are below 50%. Dedication is NOT being rewarded here at all. Thats just for 1 glam! As MGP can be farmed (and over time will stockpile), the glam cant, so you are entirely depending on this jackpot.

depending on a jumbo cactpot win? what? no. never factor that in. you make your MGP any other way but that. if you do happen to place in jumbo cactpot just treat it as a bonus. but NEVER ever rely on it being a part of your strategy to acquire MGP.

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Originally Posted by Elevin

Or should they never increase MGP pay-outs or add more ways to gain MGP?

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They already do this. The rate at which you can acquire MGP has increased drastically over the years. You just don't realize it because as a newer player you have no basis for comparison.

You don't earn MGP by farming GATES and so, you get MGP by completing weekly challenges.

• First the challenge logs. If you take out the too grindy stuff (To the races II, Victory Lap II and Kiwami) that's a total of 71k MGP
• Then by completing the challenge log you will : races 3 time (3x1k MGP) and do 5 GATES (5x5k MGP)
• By starting and loosing 15 Verminion battle during a tournement you'll get some MGP as well, ~35k weekly.
• Fashion Report grants you 60k MGP weekly
• Mini Cactpot ~7x500=3k5 MGP
• Mega Cactpot ~3000 MGP weekly

Except for the challenge log, all the MGP gain can be increased by 15% with Gold Saucer VIP Card. Completing all those takes maximum 2h a week if you take your time.

TOTAL = 71k + 1,15*(3k+25k+35k+60k+3k5+3k) ~= 220k / week and I did pessimistic estimations. So to go from 0 to 10M MGP it takes around 45 weeks. less than a year. I think that's acceptable.

Example : I was cap'd before the mount. I spent the 4M MGP for the mount so 6M left, and I'm already standing at 7M5.

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Originally Posted by Darkmoonrise

You don't earn MGP by farming GATES and so, you get MGP by completing weekly challenges.

• First the challenge logs. If you take out the too grindy stuff (To the races II, Victory Lap II and Kiwami) that's a total of 71k MGP
• Then by completing the challenge log you will : races 3 time (3x1k MGP) and do 5 GATES (5x5k MGP)
• By starting and loosing 15 Verminion battle during a tournement you'll get some MGP as well, ~35k weekly.
• Fashion Report grants you 60k MGP weekly
• Mini Cactpot ~7x500=3k5 MGP
• Mega Cactpot ~3000 MGP weekly

Except for the challenge log, all the MGP gain can be increased by 15% with Gold Saucer VIP Card. Completing all those takes maximum 2h a week if you take your time.

TOTAL = 71k + 1,15*(3k+25k+35k+60k+3k5+3k) ~= 220k / week and I did pessimistic estimations. So to go from 0 to 10M MGP it takes around 45 weeks. less than a year. I think that's acceptable.

Example : I was cap'd before the mount. I spent the 4M MGP for the mount so 6M left, and I'm already standing at 7M5.

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I made a post just like yours - trying to be helpful. If anything, your detail was even better. I apparently was not providing "intelligible discussion" according to the OP. Maybe they will see the wisdom in your post. Just like how a player does daily/weekly things, like accruing 450 capped tomestones, running raids for loot or even doing weekly custom deliveries... doing the daily/weekly Gold Saucer stuff just has to be added to that list if someone wants the rewards.

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Originally Posted by dspguy

I made a post just like yours - trying to be helpful. If anything, your detail was even better. I apparently was not providing "intelligible discussion" according to the OP. Maybe they will see the wisdom in your post. Just like how a player does daily/weekly things, like accruing 450 capped tomestones, running raids for loot or even doing weekly custom deliveries... doing the daily/weekly Gold Saucer stuff just has to be added to that list if someone wants the rewards.

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You can do all the challenges you want, but the more the prize pool increases, the longer the grind becomes which is why i'm arguing to increase the pay-outs on literally just 2 things which was the Open Tournament and the Jumbo Cactpot... Most here do not want to see any MGP pay-outs increasing despite how many more rewards are added to the game.

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Originally Posted by Brightamethyst

They already do this. The rate at which you can acquire MGP has increased drastically over the years. You just don't realize it because as a newer player you have no basis for comparison.

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From my understanding, there has been around 7m(?) of prizes added to the Gold Saucer Since SHB. In that same time frame, how much has the potential to earn MGP increased on a per weekly basis without living in the Gold Saucer?

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Originally Posted by Elevin

Most here do not want to see any MGP pay-outs increasing despite how many more rewards are added to the game.

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yes you're right, we don't see the need. Good that we understood each others ^^ hope you have a good day :)

i have over 3 million MGP left over and nothing to buy unless they add new stuff, i only visit the golden saucer once a week on sunday and do a few things there.

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Originally Posted by Elevin

You can do all the challenges you want, but the more the prize pool increases, the longer the grind becomes which is why i'm arguing to increase the pay-outs on literally just 2 things which was the Open Tournament and the Jumbo Cactpot... Most here do not want to see any MGP pay-outs increasing despite how many more rewards are added to the game.

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For reasons stated multiple times. This isn't something that needs to be addressed. If you want the rewards, do the time. No one is saying you have to play some mini-game 100,000 times or more to get to 10M. Follow what others have said and the MGP comes easy. It is only a grind if you let it be a grind.