Ungendered sit poses, please?

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Originally Posted by VerdeLuck

One of the more common requests on here is asking for male viera hair on all races and genders so I really can't believe that it's not about just taking things that make the races and genders unique one by one.
I have had the "I wish I had that" but then I realize I have things to my own race or gender that are cool and I forget about it. I can't wear hats, I can't use a lot of glam options, but I have some that are great, and I just use those.

The thing is I don't want what's unique about my characters gender and race taken away from it. If Miqo and Aura have the same options as I do but also have hats and legacy armor glam, why would I ever play viera?

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I have never seen requests for male Viera hair any more frequently than requests for other races. If anything, maybe because it's the most recent designs and people have moved past whatever previous option never became available either?

If you stop wanting to be a Viera because other characters can use your stuff, then that's your own issue. Why are you playing male Viera now? For the incredibly small pool of race-unique gear and hairstyles?

If everyone had access to the same things, and that was enough to make you not want to be Viera any more, then... what? Where's the problem?

If you're dedicated to your current character's appearance, then you've lost nothing. If you want to jump ship, one Fantasia doesn't cost that much once evened out over however long you'll be getting enjoyment from your character design.

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Originally Posted by VerdeLuck

This is a whole lot of projection and assumptions just because I have a different opinon than you do.

Having races and genders be different is fine and good in the game, it makes playing one character feel different than the other. For example, it makes up for a lot of the limitations of my male viera character that I have male glams and viera exclusive hairstyles and animations.
If those weren't exclusive then there would be no reason to play it and I'd have to pay 10 dollars to get off what would be an objectively inferior race.

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Using projections as a card only works if you make sense..,
all you've said is others claims on different topics that have general different directions, or can be misconstrued/twisted like you have to benefit your opinion<which it is> saying players want to rip race specialty. when most want to make more options available, and I gave an additional QoL with my topic. Which you ignored. [which seems more like you want to come out on top, which is supported by you bringing in things from other topics which can be taken wrong out of full context]

Races will always be different and special.
you replies can be attributed to people crying appropriating. which isn't the intention, or a goal.

I have multiple alts and they all feel different. even if they had everything available to them all.

it all ends up subjective on that part.

[no one reasonable in its basic meaning would see you going against a QoL/Game Enhancing options as Enhancing the base/differing feelings of the races. only to needlessly detract or prevent the game from improving on many topics. which you can't deny as many here testify to your singular direction in other topics]

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Originally Posted by Iscah

I have never seen requests for male Viera hair any more frequently than requests for other races. If anything, maybe because it's the most recent designs and people have moved past whatever previous option never became available either?

If you stop wanting to be a Viera because other characters can use your stuff, then that's your own issue. Why are you playing male Viera now? For the incredibly small pool of race-unique gear and hairstyles?

If everyone had access to the same things, and that was enough to make you not want to be Viera any more, then... what? Where's the problem?

If you're dedicated to your current character's appearance, then you've lost nothing. If you want to jump ship, one Fantasia doesn't cost that much once evened out over however long you'll be getting enjoyment from your character design.

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Yes, I am playing it for the exclusive gear and hair styles. If everyone had access to it I would be stuck on an inferior character with no way to change other than paying 10 USD to SE for a fantasia, especially since my character's unique offerings would be available for other people and I would have no hats due to the racial limitations. And that's not a proposition I like.

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Originally Posted by GTK0HLK

[no one reasonable in its basic meaning would see you going against a QoL/Game Enhancing options as Enhancing the base/differing feelings of the races. only to needlessly detract or prevent the game from improving on many topics. which you can't deny as many here testify to your singular direction in other topics]

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Oh you're just a bad faith troll, I should have known...
Can't even pretend to see things from any other perspective, just making statements like "no reasonable person would ever be against what I like".

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Originally Posted by VerdeLuck

Yes, I am playing it for the exclusive gear and hair styles. If everyone had access to it I would be stuck on an inferior character with no way to change other than paying 10 USD to SE for a fantasia, especially since my character's unique offerings would be available for other people and I would have no hats due to the racial limitations. And that's not a proposition I like.

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You are severely off topic with your insecurities about your character. Frankly, none of the stuff should be locked and we should be choosing based on what we want, but that's not what this is about.

Especially with your weird inferior race stuff. You've made your point about how you do not want more equal gender presentation. That's nice, many of us do. You're not really convincing anyone here by arguing about stuff not relevant to this thread.

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Originally Posted by VerdeLuck

Oh you're just a bad faith troll, I should have known...
Can't even pretend to see things from any other perspective, just making statements like "no reasonable person would ever be against what I like".

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They're correct, actually. You're making this about you and male viera when this is about ungenderlocking animations. You are not acknowledging their valid points and suggestions for alternative systems. The troll is you, buddy.

Getting this back on topic, it's really not asking much for the option to have more universal sits alongside the unique racial ones. And as someone else has pointed out, the system could be reworked to allow the choice of cposes that appear with the randomizer much like the minion and mount roulette (because I sure know I wouldn't want the feminine ones much like some people wouldn't want the masculine ones).

It doesn't have to encroach on what exists. It's just opening up the potential for more personal expression for both male and female characters.

I feel like the randomiser looks unnatural anyway. I always go with a fixed pose for my characters.

One thing I would really like is to be able to go straight to a pose, eg. if you typed "/cpose 3" you'd go straight into pose 3 rather than having to cycle through everything. It would make it a lot more viable to "strike a pose" spontaneously without looking like you're in a one-man game of Simon Says to get there.

I want to add they should unlock gender based combat poses as well...

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Originally Posted by Iscah

I feel like the randomiser looks unnatural anyway. I always go with a fixed pose for my characters.

One thing I would really like is to be able to go straight to a pose, eg. if you typed "/cpose 3" you'd go straight into pose 3 rather than having to cycle through everything. It would make it a lot more viable to "strike a pose" spontaneously without looking like you're in a one-man game of Simon Says to get there.

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Oh absolutely, I'd love it if we could choose by number. Especially when there are so many to choose from between standing, sitting, and ground sitting.

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Originally Posted by Amenara

I want to add they should unlock gender based combat poses as well...

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100% with you there. I really love the male Dark Knight and Dragoon poses, but wouldn't want to trade them for female Warrior or Gunbreaker.