By the way, FFXIV IS a good game...

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Originally Posted by Skiros

If I had a cent every time someone conflates criticism with toxicity

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You'd have about ten dollars, which isn't a lot of money, but is still a concerning amount given you're only getting a cent per take.

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Originally Posted by Striker44

Honestly, just go to YT instead of the toxic cesspool that is the forums. Instead of the same dozen or so people here who will complain about anything, you'll find hundreds of people absolutely loving the game, the story, the music, et al.. FFXIV is an awesome game, and the overwhelming majority of its players know that. They just don't post here on these forums.

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Not to disregard your opinion, but what you're saying is - just close your eyes on the problems people have with the game because it's toxic to be unhappy with something in FFXIV, just watch only happy opinions.

Like anything in life, it has its flaws. But I do feel FF14 is better than some MMOs I've tried (and I've tried a lot since 2001). I think it's all about what a person wants out of an MMO.

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Originally Posted by Colt47

For some reason, I feel like someone needs to say this amongst the deluge of random threads complaining about literally every slight the game has because they hit end game and have nothing left but the grindy parts.

The truth is that housing doesn't matter and savage doesn't matter. Heck, crafting technically doesn't matter (unless you actually keep up with the grinding and make your own leveling gear). Someone can just play the entire game through and then put it down after the latest normal content is done.

Like out of all the threads posted about issues, the only one that really feels like it could be a valid point is the one with the healers because you feel the healer issues going through the entire game and not just end game.

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Originally Posted by AngelCheese77

But I do feel FF14 is better than some MMOs I've tried (and I've tried a lot since 2001).

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thats precisely it. compared to other mmos its very good which is what makes it so popular but it could use some adjustments in some areas.

Love the game and play it way more than I should.

Yep, a great game with an immense world full of interesting things to discover, thousands of imaginative quests with clever puzzles or mini-games or just a special fight, and the finest cut-scenes.
It's also full of rich and deep game systems, and the progression is perfect : everything is done to help players to fully understand the various game systems and get better, which create a sane environment with high quality gameplay every day.
And above all, they really nailed the reason to build a MMORPG. There are tons of players interactions in each aspect of the game, and every player can leave a mark in the persistent world. It just wouldn't be the same in a offline solo game.

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Originally Posted by Genz

Yep, a great game with an immense world full of interesting things to discover, thousands of imaginative quests with clever puzzles or mini-games or just a special fight, and the finest cut-scenes.
It's also full of rich and deep game systems, and the progression is perfect : everything is done to help players to fully understand the various game systems and get better, which create a sane environment with high quality gameplay every day.
And above all, they really nailed the reason to build a MMORPG. There are tons of players interactions in each aspect of the game, and every player can leave a mark in the persistent world. It just wouldn't be the same in a offline solo game.

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I don't know what game you've been playing, but this is all pretty... bordering on objectively absent from this game. Also, on the underlined point, they're designing the game to be more solo oriented, so that's straight wrong. Is this bait? Might've gotten me.

EDIT: To be clear, the game is still quite good and has a lot of praise-worthy aspects, but it's none of these. In fact, many of these virtues stated in your post are things they need to improve upon.

FFXIV Good. WoW Bad. Upvotes to the left.

But seriously, people complain about every game because no game is perfect and people are certainty not either.

As long as YOU find FFXIV fun isn't that all that matters?

And if you get burned out, just take a short break. Personally i've been enjoying the hell out of Evil Dead: The Game nonstop the last few days.

Hail to the king, baby.

https://www.bing.com/th/id/OGC.75bc3...ckXyhOMuZRo%3d

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Originally Posted by Genz

Yep, a great game with an immense world full of interesting things to discover, thousands of imaginative quests with clever puzzles or mini-games or just a special fight, and the finest cut-scenes.
It's also full of rich and deep game systems, and the progression is perfect : everything is done to help players to fully understand the various game systems and get better, which create a sane environment with high quality gameplay every day.
And above all, they really nailed the reason to build a MMORPG. There are tons of players interactions in each aspect of the game, and every player can leave a mark in the persistent world. It just wouldn't be the same in a offline solo game.

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Immense world full of things to discover? I’m sorry but the overworld is dead. Also please tell me what is done after hall of the veteran at level 15 to help players understand their job.

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Originally Posted by Genz

Yep, a great game with an immense world full of interesting things to discover, thousands of imaginative quests with clever puzzles or mini-games or just a special fight, and the finest cut-scenes.
It's also full of rich and deep game systems, and the progression is perfect : everything is done to help players to fully understand the various game systems and get better, which create a sane environment with high quality gameplay every day.
And above all, they really nailed the reason to build a MMORPG. There are tons of players interactions in each aspect of the game, and every player can leave a mark in the persistent world. It just wouldn't be the same in a offline solo game.

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I want to like your post because I know you're kidding but then it might look as if people actually believe this lol