Console Players don't need Addons

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Originally Posted by YukikoKurosawa

So why do you?

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Console players also hardly ever talk. So why do we need a chat box?

Nobody needs them, its a matter of making your game more enjoyable to play. You sound mad jealous tbh :3
Also there are no addons that actually makes fights themselves easier, merely some things like skill rotations. And even those are far from used by everyone on PC.
Other addons assists with targeting. Did you know that its entirely possible to make macros ingame letting you heal somebody by mousing over their name in party list without changing target?
Furthermore, did you know there is an addon that does the same, but without the games inherent skill queing problem? Square needs to up their. But I digress. You give somebody tools to assist them and they will use those tools.
And those who are too poor to afford said tools don't get to use them, and will inevitably try to make their lack of something useful a point of pride because denial.

Oh no addon/modder brothers we got too cocky.

What are we going to do now that FFXIV will not look like Second life?.

Help, help. Someone installed a DIRTY MOD that fixes audio crashes! Or gets rid of that obnoxious gigantic gap at the bottom of the left side of the character screen after belt removal! Police! Arrest that lawbreaker!

Dude just admit you're a casual and go back to being hardstuck in plat lol

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Originally Posted by Gemina

They provide more than QoL elements to the gameplay. They can and do give distinctive advantages over console players.
A poster here already admitted to me that healers can see the mitigation and ogcd heal cooldowns of their teammates. That is one hell of an advantage if you ask me.

I am trying to understand it myself. My previous question of why would a player seeking more difficult content support and use addon tools not supported by the dev team that makes the content less so got no response.

Seems to me players care more about the credibility than the difficulty. Thoughts?

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youre being intellecutally dishonest. addons go from things as harmless as "change the bgm" to actual cheating and automation. use some critical thinking for once and stop clumping them together and pretending people are all pining for the cheating ones.

theres plugins that do help and make things "easier" but not by a substantial margin. theres one addon out there that makes battle countdowns show for every second instead of just the last 5. it makes it "easier" in that someone doesnt have to count in their heads to use sharpcast or whatever at -12 seconds, but do you seriously think theyre unable to do that themselves? moreover do you seriously think that being able to use sharpcast at exactly -12 is going to make someone suddenly able to clear savages and ultimates with no practice? youre just arguing in bad faith at that point.

people are defending the fun and harmless stuff. things like changing bgm, adding a background image to text boxes, or filtering icon clutter when opening the map. people also defend the things that anyone could do without help. yes anyone can count seconds in their head, and anyone can target a party member to see how many seconds are remaining in their buff/debuff. yes anyone can sift through the battle log to see what killed them. these addons arent giving anyone any big advantage, theyre just saving them them some needless effort by displaying the already available information better than the vanilla ui does.

and of course theres the addons that just fix the shit SE themselves wont fix. like the one that solves the issue of controllers randomly disconnecting on PC, or one that lets you restart audio without closing the game for when the game poops its pants. or the one that prevents the client from closing when it fails to login. or the one that makes animation lock not last twice as long if youre not lucky enough to live in Sacramento.

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Originally Posted by Themarvin

Admitting to that you cannot beat the game with the console setting of UI and the likes and so on and so forth just mean you are not able to actually do that savage og ultimate content that you do and claim to have passed on the same terms as any player in the game whom does not have the same advantage.

Clearly many forum users don't play with actual people who succeeds great time on consoles.

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N O B O D Y is saying they cant clear with the vanilla ui lmao. the jp guy that got banned does world prog. in case youre not aware, add ons dont work for the first week-ish after a patch, so anyone who clears stuff in the first days clearly can play with the vanilla functions of the game, they simply want to have better qol.

i suppose that being a squenix simp and being intellectually dishonest go hand in hand.

It is too bad this is an obvious bait thread as it could be a actual good discussion.

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Originally Posted by YukikoKurosawa

So why do you?

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I don't need an add-on, mod, or a plugin to turn my 123 combo into a one-button just like in PvP. However, when the option is available, it would be expected if I took the opportunity.
Instead of punishing players with bans and warning for using third-party tools. Why not provide them with official in-game alternatives that give players no reason to download third-party tools?

Titanmen is a way better troll. This one is just cringe like the younglings say.

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Originally Posted by YukikoKurosawa

What if

What if

They don't want you to have that information and have designed encounters entirely around you not having said information?

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That would be most unfortunate because then we wouldn't be aware that you actively shit on Ultimate clearers when you haven't even cleared the lower-tier said encounters