You were warned...

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Originally Posted by Mosha

cool story bro.

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wow not a very smart person

I think if someone ever asked me to install a specific addon to be part of their group I would simply just not play with them. I find the addons those high-tier raiders use to be visually appalling and an active turn off. I can hardly tell whether I'm looking at a video game or a Microsoft Excel Spreadsheet. Thankfully my needs are largely met through tinkering with the base UI options.

I clear higher end content on party finder with people I don't really know, and not once has anyone asked me for logs or openly criticized my damage output. Then again, I play on EU, so I cannot speak for the datacenter culture of NA where that sort of thing appears to be more prevalent. I just do my rotation and hope to clear, I'm not concerned with following the meta to the letter nor do I subscribe to the mentality that by going as X job that I'm hindering the party.

If that offends some of these users then so be it, I still find myself clearing fights by respecting mechanics and going through a rotation learned from guides/levelling up (though I will concede that not every job spells out the optimal rotation through the levelling experience.)

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Originally Posted by Nizzi

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Originally Posted by Oldschoolegamer38

wow not a very smart person

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Said by the person with a "Yo Momma" signature.

I think you're just not understanding that for the longest time yoship said it was a grey area for them too so they were not too strict about that rule unless we used third party programs for harassing, and that's how it played out for the longest time.

People are upset for the sudden stricting of the rule and on top of that not even giving warning to clean accounts, just straight up banning them through prog. I don't think its unreasonable for them to change their mind but to be so sudden and apathetic about it.

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Originally Posted by Minarisweet

I think you're just not understanding that for the longest time yoship said it was a grey area for them too so they were not too strict about that rule unless we used third party programs for harassing, and that's how it played out for the longest time.

People are upset for the sudden stricting of the rule and on top of that not even giving warning to clean accounts, just straight up banning them through prog. I don't think its unreasonable for them to change their mind but to be so sudden and apathetic about it.

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All this time people have been walking on egg-shells with using addons despite the ToS clearly stating that "catching" you using them can get you banned at any given moment. Now that it happened all of a sudden people go surprise pikachu face and start blaming the devs for doing their jobs. There's nothing apathetic about this. Yoshi-P has been telling people to seriously dont let him catch you in the act of addon usage and its very easy to do that if you decide to stream in public. We all knew the risks. Stop defending yourselves from not following the rules.

Boot is a celebrated delicacy here in the FFXIV community.

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

All this time people have been walking on egg-shells with using addons despite the ToS clearly stating that "catching" you using them can get you banned at any given moment. Now that it happened all of a sudden people go surprise pikachu face and start blaming the devs for doing their jobs. There's nothing apathetic about this. Yoshi-P has been telling people to seriously dont let him catch you in the act of addon usage and its very easy to do that if you decide to stream in public. We all knew the risks. Stop defending yourselves from not following the rules.

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It's come up in other threads, but the difference is that they previously didn't/wouldn't/couldn't(?) enforce it via using outside means, i.e. streams or Youtube. There generally had to be in-game evidence.
Now it seems that's gone out the window, and that particular change is.. well, jarring. Communities have been fostered, so it's not unreasonable for people to be taken aback by a sudden change of what supporting evidence is used for an event that is generally handled by those communities.

You forget the "REAL" problem lol. Bots. I think you should include the worst and most egregious issue.