Please Nerf Dragoons.

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Originally Posted by Ogrumz

Cause Melee are the strongest in PvP outside of WHM. You are going to have 3 melee on most teams, especially since most people know that WAR/SAM/DRG are incredibly broken right now.

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Wait til you see a good NIN

NIN is a high skill expression job but ultimately the best melee in the game when played at the top level.

I think the problem we have is they were so scared of having a Ranged Meta they overcooked the kits for melee and gave ranged....very little.

BRD for instance now that there's 3 melees on every team.....just runs, they can't do anything else unless they have someone babysit them because it takes so long for them to get a clean shot off because someone thought balancing them for frontlines over CC was a priority, in CC they just die.

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Originally Posted by JanVanding

BRD for instance now that there's 3 melees on every team.....just runs, they can't do anything else unless they have someone babysit them because it takes so long for them to get a clean shot off because someone thought balancing them for frontlines over CC was a priority, in CC they just die.

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i dont think its necessarily bad to have certain jobs be better in frontlines vs CC. that said i dont really know it bard is actually good in FL because i dont play that mode.

i agree btw, that melee are too strong in CC compared to everything else, and ranged need a bone thrown.

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Originally Posted by JanVanding

Wait til you see a good NIN

NIN is a high skill expression job but ultimately the best melee in the game when played at the top level.

I think the problem we have is they were so scared of having a Ranged Meta they overcooked the kits for melee and gave ranged....very little.

BRD for instance now that there's 3 melees on every team.....just runs, they can't do anything else unless they have someone babysit them because it takes so long for them to get a clean shot off because someone thought balancing them for frontlines over CC was a priority, in CC they just die.

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Range can be very deadly, assuming people are fools and don't aim at them in CC (happens more often than you think at Bronze and Silver). But should they get focused, yeah, they can't really do much.

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Originally Posted by QooEr

i dont think its necessarily bad to have certain jobs be better in frontlines vs CC. that said i dont really know it bard is actually good in FL because i dont play that mode.

i agree btw, that melee are too strong in CC compared to everything else, and ranged need a bone thrown.

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Its bad that in CC has a ranked and FL does not. And you may not think adventurer plates are a reward but some of us do. I want that diamond plate. The entire balancing needs to be done for CC, FL is a silly sidemode at this point that could never be balanced or taken seriously just by the sheer volumes of players present.

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Originally Posted by drtasteyummy

It's by far the easiest class to play, has a shield, has a 50% damage reduce debuff, has an untargetable ulti that hits for 30k aoe, has a natural combo that hits for 38k minimum in 2,5 seconds all that while having a good amount of health, an escape, all attacks are instant and they have an aoe distance execute.

their design is a literal bruh moment

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"Has a shield, Combo hits for 38k minimum"

What?

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Originally Posted by JanVanding

Wait til you see a good NIN

NIN is a high skill expression job but ultimately the best melee in the game when played at the top level.

I think the problem we have is they were so scared of having a Ranged Meta they overcooked the kits for melee and gave ranged....very little.

BRD for instance now that there's 3 melees on every team.....just runs, they can't do anything else unless they have someone babysit them because it takes so long for them to get a clean shot off because someone thought balancing them for frontlines over CC was a priority, in CC they just die.

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Nothing is "high skill" in pvp. You have 4-5 buttons.

Yeah, and Warrior infinite CC... And WHM unpurifiable CC + LB... And MCH lucky one shot... And NIN's burst... And SGE's damage... And SCH survivability... And RDM damage + utility...

You know, come to think of it, I think the mode isn't balanced at all now.

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Originally Posted by Velnora

Nothing is "high skill" in pvp. You have 4-5 buttons.

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Bronze Quotes.

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Originally Posted by iiTzSeb

Nah, we need WHM nerfs in an emergency hotfix tbh. Uninteractable polymorph AND a bugged LB building method that lets them laser 6 times in one match is actually unacceptable.

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Let's not forgot that cure 2 is bugged so they can permanently have it as well.

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Originally Posted by Josebm

1 shot? what are you talking about, LB? it does 30k damage, if you have 100%hp its nowhere close to one shot anyone lol
If anything dragoons need a buff, they don't even have a stun lmao

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It does not one-shot this is true. However, any good dragoon does life of the dragon before they leap up so they do 37.5k(which is very strong) aoe not 30k to really get value out of it. My issue is more the fact they get a shield when they land for protection as well. Then again I seen whm imp dragoon before they even hit the ground and deny the full limit break so I think whm is more of an issue than dragoon to be honest.