The Botridden Land, Eureka Pyros

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Originally Posted by Meowdyj

I really don't get it why game masters aren't actively tackling this problem. Its so obvious they are bots yet not getting removed. Would say get a grip Square but its honestly embarrassing on every aspect of the game, bots everywhere.

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Game Masters are specifically trained to NOT deal with them at all. To the point where they have to pretend the character in question doesn't even exist, apparently. <.< I get wanting people who're specifically designed to the task to deal with it, but it's strange to go that far.

I see two different groups of bots for bunny fates at pyros on the Crystal datacenter.

The excharic-geared ones. They tend to have one job at 80, they wear HQ excharic gear, they are always in a party together, they all use default chocobo mount.
And the cryptlurker-geared ones. They are not in a party, they have gladiator at level 2 and another job at level 80, they wear augmented cryptlurker gear, they use the default chocobo mount.

The excharic-geared ones are part of a bot FC as said FC has a name that is bot-level gibberish in its name.
The cryptlurker-geared ones are not in an FC.

Both bot groups are Private Third Class for their respective grand companies. Maelstrom for excharic-geared, Immortal Flames for cryptlurker-geared.
Both bot groups don't use one of the various titles for their characters.

EDIT: In total I counted 14 bots at the lower-leveled bunny fate in Pyros.

Before someone tells me to go just report them, I have already. I am just waiting for the Special Task Force to do their job.

The exarchic bots are presumably former treasure map bots that moved onto greener pastures so to speak, while the ones in augmented cryptlurker gear are more likely recent level-skipped arrivals.

That said, I'm having doubts that the map bots that were active on my server are actually gone and rather think they're probably lingering in a locked instance I can't actually get into the few times I've checked.

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

The exarchic bots are presumably former treasure map bots that moved onto greener pastures so to speak, while the ones in augmented cryptlurker gear are more likely recent level-skipped arrivals.

That said, I'm having doubts that the map bots that were active on my server are actually gone and rather think they're probably lingering in a locked instance I can't actually get into the few times I've checked.

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Sounds about right for exarchic bots and cryptlurker bots. The cryptlurker ones are newer from what I seen. While the exarchic ones I seen as far back as early February this year.

I have a strong belief they are precisely abusing the instance system for eureka in how they tend to 'lock'. After all, if an instance locks within the first 5 to 20 mins in its life span, that means less potential to be observed and by extension be reported.

It's also the fact that bunny chests are a completely free source of income, as map farming requires them to have a bot constantly buying out maps in a price range going from 30-50K on average, which means if they don't get a portal, they're scarcely profiting or even losing money.

The only "positive" if you can call it that is that there's a limited number of bunnies that can spawn from each FATE which places a hard cap on how much they can be getting from this farming method and since it's potentially depriving actual players of bunnies it's liable to get much more backlash then they would from maps.

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

It's also the fact that bunny chests are a completely free source of income, as map farming requires them to have a bot constantly buying out maps in a price range going from 30-50K on average, which means if they don't get a portal, they're scarcely profiting or even losing money.

The only "positive" if you can call it that is that there's a limited number of bunnies that can spawn from each FATE which places a hard cap on how much they can be getting from this farming method and since it's potentially depriving actual players of bunnies it's liable to get much more backlash then they would from maps.

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Yea its an easy profit for them in pyros. Lets just go with the excharic party as an example, since its always a group of 8. Also because getting a bunny is almost guaranteed because of how fates work when getting a gold rating as a party. Its hard to give an exact figure of how much they make but its definitely within the range of 80,000 to 440,000 per bunny fate in raw gil. Obviously not factoring in the other contents of the chest like the horn or the hairstyle or the logos.

I can only hope the more information spread about them and reporting done on them will result in their numbers dwindling down.

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

The exarchic bots are presumably former treasure map bots that moved onto greener pastures so to speak, while the ones in augmented cryptlurker gear are more likely recent level-skipped arrivals.

That said, I'm having doubts that the map bots that were active on my server are actually gone and rather think they're probably lingering in a locked instance I can't actually get into the few times I've checked.

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I would like to note, outside of this pyros situation, the only time I have ever seen bots using the exarchic set is related to maps. And to double push on this, bots would have 0 reason to buy exarchic gear (or, ANY gear above 300 ilvl) for Eureka, because it force sync's the gear down. So, the fact some are wearing that I guess shows they weren't ever banned, they just shifted to different botting activities, probably due to a lack of supply at this point on Zonureskin maps to keep it consistent under a certain threshold for their level 2 conjurer bots buying it up.

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Originally Posted by Jijifli

I would like to note, outside of this pyros situation, the only time I have ever seen bots using the exarchic set is related to maps. And to double push on this, bots would have 0 reason to buy exarchic gear (or, ANY gear above 300 ilvl) for Eureka, because it force sync's the gear down. So, the fact some are wearing that I guess shows they weren't ever banned, they just shifted to different botting activities, probably due to a lack of supply at this point on Zonureskin maps to keep it consistent under a certain threshold for their level 2 conjurer bots buying it up.

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Thanks to quick ventures, Exarchic gear is dirt cheap and easier to come by right now compared to any of the level 70 gear that can be obtained from the MB (at least on Crystal, I can't speak for other data centers). Makes more sense to get it since there's more flexibility in what content can be done with it. That would be useful to bot operators if they think there might be more profit in switching back to maps at some point.

If they're bots still operating from Shadowbringers, their gear should display a Maker's Signature when viewed on Lodestone. Exarchic didn't show up in quick ventures until 6.0.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

If they're bots still operating from Shadowbringers, their gear should display a Maker's Signature when viewed on Lodestone. Exarchic didn't show up in quick ventures until 6.0.

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This should be covering enough to follow rules, no?

Source, to note, is from the linked to post on the first page, which links a video of these very bots in question. If you want to track some of them yourself, you're free to, but here's one with a very clear named exarchic piece.
https://i.imgur.com/QBiPw8V.png

So, there you go. <3

Bumping this up, I've encountered bots coming to my data center (JP) like, 3/4 of bots using E language at Pyros. The NM became harder to attack because of the amount of bots... :(