What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

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Originally Posted by Maxilor

One of my favorite things I read about the story is when someone compared Meteion to one of those Self-Learning AI Programs that they tried to introduce to the internet.

Except instead of becoming Genocidal, the AI in real life just became a giant racist.

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to be fair, i don't want to know what the incarnation of the purest form of racism could do if it also basically had the power to end people with a thought, thinking about it like that meteion turned out quite noble actually.

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Originally Posted by ddwarbird

Her voice is really creepy, her personality is the same "pathetic girl" trope you see in a lot of animes/games (Colette from Tales of Symphonia springs to mind). As soon as I saw her, I thought... Yeah, this girl is going to be a villain. They may not being objectifying but why have a character like that in the game at all? I found her creepy and rather annoying in Elpis. Her plot arc is essentially "becoming an emo because the universe isn't what you want it to be". Its really shallow if I'm honest... plus she isn't wearing any trousers.

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You... really have the strangest complaints. It honestly feels like you're just reaching for things to hate about the game now.

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Originally Posted by ddwarbird

Her voice is really creepy, her personality is the same "pathetic girl" trope you see in a lot of animes/games (Colette from Tales of Symphonia springs to mind). As soon as I saw her, I thought... Yeah, this girl is going to be a villain. They may not being objectifying but why have a character like that in the game at all? I found her creepy and rather annoying in Elpis. Her plot arc is essentially "becoming an emo because the universe isn't what you want it to be". Its really shallow if I'm honest... plus she isn't wearing any trousers.

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I didn't get this at all. I knew she'd be an important character, but I didn't see her as the "last boss" until The Incident. If anything, she's a self-learning AI naively sent into the Internet. Which then discovers the chans.

Yeah, i'm not sure about FFX but Meteion wasn't objectified or sexualized in anyway.

She was if anything more of a familiar to Hermes, a creation to help with his studies that he cared for deeply because of her inquisitive and friendly nature.

Not sure where exactly this take is coming from.

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Originally Posted by Ryaz

You... really have the strangest complaints. It honestly feels like you're just reaching for things to hate about the game now.

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Not at all, I don't "hate" the game at all, but its not perfect either and some of its choices are very standard for Japanese games.

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Originally Posted by Millybonk

• The true cause of the Final Days is a pet-project from an ancient which goes mad after observing countless dead world and possibly causing the death of several world by projecting negative emotions unto them, and is thus dead-set on bringing despair to every world, upon which said ancient goes mad and is now letting her run her course to test humanity if they can withstand/fight despair

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I thought Meteion was an awful final boss as well. Also, her source of power, Dynamis, was equally silly.

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Originally Posted by kpxmanifesto

I thought Meteion was an awful final boss as well. Also, her source of power, Dynamis, was equally silly.

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I will agree that I kind of felt Dynamis was an ass pull.

It seems to have been shoved in and retrofitted as an explanation to things that could have easily have just been attributed to Adrenaline or Determination. Like using Dynamis to explain Limit Breaks, does this mean Elidibus had a shit ton of Dynamis during our final fight?

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Originally Posted by kpxmanifesto

I thought Meteion was an awful final boss as well. Also, her source of power, Dynamis, was equally silly.

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Agreed. I don't think it was a particularly satisfying trial, either. The first phase is decent though the second phase consisting of the boss almost exclusively just flailing about did very little for me.

Hard disagree on that. It was completely fine to me. Sure i had some head scratchers along the way too, but 99% was full of joy, suffering, hope, sadness and whatnot.

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Originally Posted by van_arn

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I dont see how theyre really misguided. This entire 8-10 year arc has been dubbed the Hydaelyn AND ZODIARK arc. Yet, the heart of Zodiark is dealt with within 2 patches(one technically) and zodiark himself is dealt with early on in the expansion that is supposed to be tying up the arc. His heart is then also killed off within 5 minutes. Meanwhile weve had hydaelyn talking in our ear since the beginning of the game and venat had an entire arc in elpis. Not to mention Venat and Hydaelyn being painted as the savior and Zodiark/Elidibus getting basically 0 credit.I think it wouldve been far more interesting to see more of Elidibus along with Zodiark together much how we saw hydaelyn numerous times.Instead he was just used as a prop and killed off swiftly. I think its especially sad when you have a character like Zenos who outlived such important and prominent characters all for him to not even get any lore built on his past plot points(why hes so strong, his memories of the final days etc etc.)