To all the sprouts(new people) out there...

Skyclaw726 most sprout s never seen cat girls or bunny girls before ‘ yea ever think there running away from them lol

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Originally Posted by MagiusNecros

I agree. We should start blaming baby healers instead. It's becoming increasing common they get one shot by telegraphed mechanic early in a boss fight and the Tank/Reaper has to clean up their mess. On the same token unless you are paired with a DRK you don't need the baby healer anyway.

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We're talking about sprouts though, as in new players. Instead of playing the blame game, you should be more inclined to give them some slack, perhaps. Sprouts learn by making mistakes. I wouldn't really call it cleaning up their mess; I'd call it 'helping'.

Personally, I'd rather see daredevil sprouts that are willing and/or eager to do big pulls. It's been the norm & if they don't start somewhere, they'll forever stick to baby pulls until lv90.

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Originally Posted by Darthgummibear

I didn't realize being frustrated was being mean-spirited.

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The best thread to vent about your messy runs (or sharing your nice runs!) is this: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...ry.-Let-s-vent.

Vent away to your heart's content over there, we all do need to vent from time to time. Although I have to agree with Penthea about targeting any particular groups regardless of your intention. Leave that one sentiment out, not everything from WoW is bad; game tribalism shouldn't be held high.

I had 77 max charters in wow still do who’s a sprout and already 80!from solo been here 16 days I can tell you haven’t done many music 16 runs and up lol

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Originally Posted by Darthgummibear

Signed,
Your healers

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Please don't ever think you speak on my behalf.

A little spice to heal past is something I've always found fun. It's far better than 1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1 and back to dancing in Limsa.

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Originally Posted by Coletergeist

We're talking about sprouts though, as in new players. Instead of playing the blame game, you should be more inclined to give them some slack, perhaps. Sprouts learn by making mistakes. I wouldn't really call it cleaning up their mess; I'd call it 'helping'.

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Sprouts in lvl 90 content that feel like jumping sporadically(which does nothing btw pretty hilarious tho) and make consistent mistakes that make a 20 minute run become a 40 minute run aren't getting brownie points from me.

I give them slack by not saying anything in chat and "helping them out" by cleaning up their mess. And an opportunity to learn an encounter.

It's one of the few benefits of the whole Healers have nothing to heal state of dungeon content in the game.

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Originally Posted by MagiusNecros

Sprouts in lvl 90 content that feel like jumping sporadically(which does nothing btw pretty hilarious tho) and make consistent mistakes that make a 20 minute run become a 40 minute run aren't getting brownie points from me.

I give them slack by not saying anything in chat and "helping them out" by cleaning up their mess. And an opportunity to learn an encounter.

It's one of the few benefits of the whole Healers have nothing to heal state of dungeon content in the game.

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Tbf, I wasn't talking about level 90 stuff; that wasn't clarified or specified anywhere. I was under the assumption we were talking about genuine newbie players starting the game and experiencing new mechs for the first time.

Edit: Oh, I see you made a comment on page 1 about level 90 sprouts, but you're the only one talking about level 90 stuff specifically I guess.

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Originally Posted by Coletergeist

Tbf, I wasn't talking about level 90 stuff; that wasn't clarified or specified anywhere. I was under the assumption we were talking about genuine newbie players starting the game and experiencing new mechs for the first time.

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Genuine new players in ARR/HW content is a different story and should be offered a great deal of leniency. Stormblood onward there really isn't much of an excuse. On average fresh start sprouts tend to play better then the oddball lvl 90 sprouts in endgame content having no idea what they are doing.

It's unfair to assume it's WOW refugees. A lot of players flood in for a new expansion.

all i can hear is

dear sprouts: i can't heal for shit, pls do small pulls