What's with this talk about Warrior outhealing healers in dungeons?

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Originally Posted by Caurcas

I don't know why some players want us to be able to do less cool stuff though. To stupid stuff like that is part of the fun.

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Probably because doing it within two weeks of the expansion launching makes a role that already has some serious issues feel even worse to play. It's like rubbing salt in the wounds.

Healers have had their complaints/issues be largely ignored for the last expansion by the devs, and now two weeks after the expac drops people are clearing EX trials without them, showing that the complaints continued to be ignored in the fight's design process.

It's especially bad given the following:

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“We have been trying to make it so that healers are required to perform more heals. The content damage that you are receiving becomes a little more intense, so that healers are a bit more busy,” said Yoshida in the interview, via a live translator. “We are trying to make it so that healers are working a bit harder to do more heals in a battle encounter for sure, and that is kind of the trend that we are trending towards.”

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Imagine if in the last expansion:

• You got heavily nerfed the last expansion (removal of DPS abilities across the board)
• The devs skip over your slide in the live letter
• You're given abilities you didn't need more of (more healing spells we don't really need to use)
• You're told you couldn't get a new class because they couldn't balance your role properly (again)
• The devs ignore any/all your complaints in live letters
• The one time they do bring it up it's for a passing mention while DPS classes gets slides and minutes of discussion about their woes

And now for this expansion, when they promise harder healing so you can finally feel like a healer instead of a gimped DPS you have people clearing EX trials within two weeks without you. It just feels demoralizing.

in dungeons, warriors basically have invicibility for 6/8 seconds on a 25 cooldown.

To be fair, tanks should be out mitigating healers. Healers really shouldn't have to heal very much at all if the rest of the team is playing properly.

A healers job is to heal unavoidable damage and heal through what the tank can't mitigate. It's not to babysit the team that can't or won't do mechanics.

A tank with healing mitigation should have more overall healing than a healer. It means they're doing their job.

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Originally Posted by Saimeren

To be fair, tanks should be out mitigating healers. Healers really shouldn't have to heal very much at all if the rest of the team is playing properly.

A healers job is to heal unavoidable damage and heal through what the tank can't mitigate. It's not to babysit the team that can't or won't do mechanics.

A tank with healing mitigation should have more overall healing than a healer. It means they're doing their job.

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If that's the case, imagine how it feels to have only 3 DPS buttons.

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Originally Posted by rewd

There are plenty of things that discourage people from playing healers and I assure you WAR's self healing isn't even in the top 10.

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Not sure how you can assure that. Looking at FF logs warrior is over double from the non-healer second place. Healers are all above it, obviously, but it's far ahead of the rest.

*Sad DRK noises*

It's fine, let us keep doing cool off the wall stuff. Nothing is going to take your role away given the average player skill in 14.

I queued into smiledon the other day, and after loading in I started sneezing and needed to blow my nose. When I got back to the game the warrior tank had done a W2W by himself and was healing himself to full the entire time. I just kind of stood there for a second and thought to myself "why am I even here?"

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Originally Posted by Shalan

[*]You're told you couldn't get a new class because they couldn't balance your role properly (again)

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It should be obvious to everyone by now that he only tells you half-truths, but busting out with Sage did sting a little.

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Originally Posted by godvivec

Not sure how you can assure that. Looking at FF logs warrior is over double from the non-healer second place. Healers are all above it, obviously, but it's far ahead of the rest.

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Because it doesn't matter if our tanks were a GNB and DRK, who are the the lowest on tank healing on fflogs, we'd still be spamming our 1 dps button over and over and healing with a few oGCD's because nothing does damage unless the group are making mistakes.