Endwalker Scholar

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Originally Posted by Mortex

I had a talk with a lot of sch player that did lvl sch and sage. And all tell me sage feels way better. Even if the fairy is more responsive being the person that uses the abilitys instead of a seperate entity. Sage bubble can be used in all situations with no drop off were sch/whm (and rare if you hold the astro bubble then astro also) need people to stand in the field for the pull heal and bonus effect. Also the job has so many strong tools on short cd (Physis and Krasis both 1 min cd for 30 % more heal increase is pretty nutty.

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Sage definitely FEELS better to play... but I'd say scholar is much stronger overall. SCH basically has similar cooldowns to sage but just feels like they never run out compared to sage who feels like they burn through theirs super quickly anytime something goes sideways.

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Originally Posted by Drekor

Sage definitely FEELS better to play... but I'd say scholar is much stronger overall. SCH basically has similar cooldowns to sage but just feels like they never run out compared to sage who feels like they burn through theirs super quickly anytime something goes sideways.

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I think it’s quite the opposite. Desperate measures is a meh ability that sage has with his bubble on a 30 second cooldown. Also his Kardio always heals the player that receives constant dmg as you do tons of dmg. You get 30 % more healing on a 1 minute cd, that is pretty bananas (and that’s without sacrificing the “fairy heals” like sch does). Haima and panhaima with his bubble and holos together are also pretty strong and on the ogcd. His aoe shield is a instant cast making it more usable in every situation plus a dash makes him the most mobile healer in the game. Sage is a really stacked job and maybe scholar gets better with the crit stat getting higher but before sage will be better.

I agree that SGE definitely feels better to play, though I have yet to play SCH with its tweaks, I don't think the tweaks would resolve all of my complaints or where I feel SGE offers better QoL. But what I am curious about is, has there become a greater dependency on shields? We have this emphasis on pure vs shield healer and I am curious if this differentiation has been achieved because 5.0 SCH felt more like an oGCD healer. I am using shields more on SGE and so far it feels like that balance is there, but the true test will be level 90 in good gear.

Scholar feels better. but even loving the job IMHO still suffers from boredomness.

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Originally Posted by Brandedblade

I apologize but the 1.5 second cast time is actually a massive thing for scholar, are you familiar with the concept of weaving your ogcds? 1.5 sec casts allow you to single weave an ogcd without clipping the gcd, which is massive for reducing the dps loss for healing.

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So? You could pull those stunts off before with the old casttime as well, all it required was adjustments on the players side (to get used to the timing) and People cleared all content with it (including solo deep dungeon btw) without ever fussing about cast times being a issue.

As for the Fairy changes, as mentioned already, this isn't something worthy of a expansion. This should have been a thing from the beginning.

I really wish that People would finally stop treating Squeenix like a small indie game company, it cant be that hard to make Jobs unique from one another when you got plenty of experience about MMOs (which we should assume they have).

I hope that the next expansion wont have any new jobs or races, but instead more focus on the currently existing jobs.

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Originally Posted by Anhra

So? You could pull those stunts off before with the old casttime as well, all it required was adjustments on the players side (to get used to the timing) and People cleared all content with it (including solo deep dungeon btw) without ever fussing about cast times being a issue.

As for the Fairy changes, as mentioned already, this isn't something worthy of a expansion. This should have been a thing from the beginning.

I really wish that People would finally stop treating Squeenix like a small indie game company, it cant be that hard to make Jobs unique from one another when you got plenty of experience about MMOs (which we should assume they have).

I hope that the next expansion wont have any new jobs or races, but instead more focus on the currently existing jobs.

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You could but it always felt clunky from the perspective of optimizing your damage, since you either took the loss of casting Ruin II, combine the weave with an energy Drain, thus reducing your available resources if you where in a spot to need them or delay using the ability until your Biolysis was ready to refresh. This meant that most of your healing was a dps loss to do, something AST did not have to deal with at all by comparison.

ANOTHER thing was that the lack of single weave spaces often meant you where more likely to double weave your faerie, which played a factor in the delay of the faerie actions, such as double weaving Seraph into Consolation.

You can continue to say it doesnt matter all you want. It does matter. Now scholar has some of its lossless healing back thanks to the faerie and Recitation. and the damage you do loose from aetherflow healing is made up for by the fact that Fey union is far more reliable and accessible to offset the healing loss from using Energy Drain to dps.

Testing Expedient and it's the same speed as Sprint.

People theorized it would be less, but it's not. That's a pretty major thing.

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

Testing Expedient and it's the same speed as Sprint.

People theorized it would be less, but it's not. That's a pretty major thing.

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It has been known since the media tour.

I reached 90 a few days ago, so here are my impressions.

The fairy is definitely faster. However, it isn't guaranteed. There's plenty of times it will exhibit lag, just like before. Embrace now being an instant definitely helps the situation and that's great news to me.

Merging Seraph with consolation wasn't a bad idea at all. The 1s recast time is a bit problematic to order a consolation if you want to summon her at the same time like before. Maybe it could be made instant? It isn't a deal breaker to me though, as I never relied on it.

Protraction is great. I'm talking out of my bum there, but the animation feels like Celestial Intersection. The effect is pretty strong and it helped a lot for packs in dungeon. I'm a big fan.

I really like Expedient too. It is "just a sprint" and a global CD, but it feels really good to play with. I can't wait to use it in Savage and EX trials haha.

Deployment tactics size buff helps. It's a bit harder to see than before though, but I welcome it. (It's huge,though!)

The bad things now:

Sacred soil is back to not being instant effect anymore (I wish it was written in the patch note :( )

My hands hurt from Art of War/Broil spam. Honestly it wasn't fun in ShB, it isn't fun right now.

I still want Bane, DoTs and the pet bar. I will not yield!!

Conclusion : It's a lot better feeling than ShB for me. Broil spam is still boring, but the new stuff is pretty cool. I like.

Soooo about expedient, i originally thought it was a lack luster capstone (to a point i still do) but after using it i found two areas it helps in, large pulls in dungeons and primal fights. 20 secs of 10% damage reduction really cant be ignored.

The movement speed increase though, i have seen people run off the edge of a fight a few times because of it, much hilarious do recommend.