square enix repeting the same mistakes as WOW?

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Originally Posted by Sotaris

Given your forum join date I'm going to assume you're new to the game.
Outside of the pandemic there has been no major delays to my knowledge and I've been playing since day 1.

The two week delay is unfortnate and we don't continue to tread that here with all other threads we got already but I wouldn't lump this into what Blizzard seem to repeat time after time. That's bit extreme when SE has shown zero reason that this is going to be the new normal for releasing patches and expansions.

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No not new just new character.playing on and off from 2.0 beta.

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Originally Posted by kaynide

What are you even talking about... Here in Japan people do indeed care very much about the delay.

As a matter of fact, the initial release date (23rd) is a national holiday most of us have off. A lot of people were looking forward to a day off together.

....but that said, I would say the average Japanese player (that I know, anyway) cares more that Yoshi-P and the devs are ok, and not over reaching or straining themselves. Not that "omg mah plans are ruinnnnned"

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I see thank for correcting me. Normally there lots of misconception about the way Japanese react to this things.

I wish they cared so much about the WoW story, it’s almost comical to try imagine the WoW devs delaying a launch over that by now with all the inconsistencies, bad storytelling, changing the canon lore seemingly on a whim when it suits them better even when the playerbase is groaning in unison… I’d say it’s proof of the complete opposite in FF14 :D

I mean...atleast Blizzard told me the expansion delay almost a month ahead of time regardless if you feel the expansion is a sloggy mess

*grabs bag of popcorn*

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Originally Posted by Liam_Harper

They have a long way to go to reach WoW's level. 5.4 and 6.2 in WoW both lasted over a full year each.

Furthermore FF14 tends to release well polished expansions, while WoW, after a full year and 1 month of work, released WoD, an unfinished expansion with the largest amount of cut content ever, that was so bad they lost half their playerbase.

So yes, you are corrected because you're wrong.

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No expansion in wow or ff14 are complete it's how it work. You have .5 and then 6.1-5. onlly by then (2 or so years later) it's complit. The polish in ff14 is good.

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Originally Posted by AlyaNimfa

Nope.

Leave WoW at their forums, a lot of us really, really, do not care what they are doing. We are happy here, this game is fine, just stop.

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I'm not happy I want more damn glam plates you got 17 classes but only 15 plates and that is not counting crafting and gathering. Also I want more dresser space dammit! lmao

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Originally Posted by Liam_Harper

They have a long way to go to reach WoW's level. 5.4 and 6.2 in WoW both lasted over a full year each.

Furthermore FF14 tends to release well polished expansions, while WoW, after a full year and 1 month of work, released WoD, an unfinished expansion with the largest amount of cut content ever, that was so bad they lost half their playerbase.

So yes, you are corrected because you're wrong.

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That's rather misleading.

There's no doubt in my mind Blizzard could learn more about project management from SE. However...

Players might disagree but blizzard communicate frequently on what they do with the playerbase, this is probably their downfall.

Yes, plenty of content was cut from warlords of Draenor but we only know that because Blizzard told us.

We don't know what was cut, and stuff will have been cut, I'm sure, from FF14 because SE only drip feed players information closer to release. Players don't have any say in the development of the game... could that be a good thing.

Shadowlands was delayed by a month because of feedback from players. Small changes were made to covenants due to feedback. If this was FF14 then there would have been no chance for feedback and that does happen.

Back to WoD, I never read any major concerns with the content of WoD - just that there was not much of it. Playing Legion I'd reckon that most of the resources went into that - they had tons of content then.

FF14 class design, arguably they are more balanced but they also get many more complains about the systems because players have no way of feeding back. The first time they get to see a class is when the patch arrives.

Blizzard rushed out an unfinished expansion once. Warlords of Draenor's launch was a catastrophe, and so much unfinished content was dropped that it could've made most of another whole expac. I'll take a delay over that mess any day.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

Blizzard rushed out an unfinished expansion once. Warlords of Draenor's launch was a catastrophe, and so much unfinished content was dropped that it could've made most of another whole expac. I'll take a delay over that mess any day.

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Warlords wasnt unfinished because it was rushed, Warlords was unfinished because management decided to change the focus of the expansion when it was 75% done in creation causing an unfinished experience.

It was hardcore mismanaged.

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Originally Posted by Y2K21

Warlords wasnt unfinished because it was rushed, Warlords was unfinished because management decided to change the focus of the expansion when it was 75% done in creation causing an unfinished experience.

It was hardcore mismanaged.

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I didn't say it was unfinished because it was rushed, just that it was unfinished and rushed. They could've delayed it to finish things, but they forced it through anyway. Look at all the terrible responses that got, and it makes it easier to see why a two-week delay isn't so bad now.