Goodbye Shadowbringers

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Originally Posted by Voidedge_Ragna

Shadowbringers was once again tame ... no one (really) died that was important to the player. Which is a ongoing trend of "everything will be fine" which takes out the treat of the story and makes it unbelievable and yes I'm aware its a fantasy story but it still makes it unbelievable on a fantasy level.

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uhh the emperor is dead...they killed off 90% of the first...there was literally future where you died and everyone else...one of the main characters is now paralyzed and will never walk again...Thancred probably is going to die extremely soon....Y'shtola has been hinted at constantly as being on borrowed time jumping into the life stream...They killed off the Graha that I liked.

Always thought Heavensward was seriously overrated when they told me the dragon ate Shiva to bond with her. I assume when he took a crap she came out?

Looking back, I'm mostly positive on ShB but do find myself a little split. While there were a few bumps in the road like Yshtola's "death" and the slog of the Twine and north Kholusia bits, I really enjoyed it up to basically the credit roll for 5.3 and then it started to go downhill a bit for me. The Elidibus scene with the memory crystals is probably the scene that hit me the hardest in the entire game so far. Post credits for 5.3 is where we ended up with grating fanboy/stalker being cheated of his well earned death and being placed as a now constant annoyance, and Zenos coming back to the fore as the main villain. Both things I really don't like, and both things that have the real potential to continue to taint the whole game for me moving forwards.

Unlike a lot of people, I actually liked the Nier raids but did find the story totally petered out at it's end (though I didn't hate it) and the Tower was easily the worst of the 3 actual raids.

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Originally Posted by Puremallace

uhh the emperor is dead...they killed off 90% of the first...there was literally future where you died and everyone else...one of the main characters is now paralyzed and will never walk again...Thancred probably is going to die extremely soon....Y'shtola has been hinted at constantly as being on borrowed time jumping into the life stream...They killed off the Graha that I liked.

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Side Characters, or evil Characters, the bad ones always die/lose and the good boys have a plot Armor as thicc as it gets. Of course there's deaths, but meaningful ones are never seen. The closest was the cursed cat, and that one is still running around (for now)

Yshtola has been "dieing" in almost every expansion now, from "oh we use the bad magic" to "im gonna suck on my own life energy" to "i wonder how hard zenos can hit me"

I started playing FF14 when 5.2 was already out. Following the MSQ nonstop from ARR to ShB, I have to say that ShB is my favorite expansion story-wise, and HW being the second. Now I feel that Endwalker would be more like a closure, but I'm going to wait for SE to surprise me otherwise.