I hate expert crafting

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Originally Posted by Menriq

So you admit it's better than penta-melded, which by definition is, wait for it, more than just a personal achievement. That's like saying you wouldn't take raid drops because you can get the same ilevel gear with tomes, even though most classes use a combination for the best itemization.

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Only if you are going to Expert craft. So if you want to go for the personal achievement crafting, then yes you are better off having the personal achievement crafting tool. If all you are doing is crafting normal items, then you can indeed ignore the existence of Skysteel tools. There is no need to go after it for any other reason than personal achievement. As someone else pointed out in some scenarios, depending on how you melded, your penta-melded tool can actually be better than the skysteel.

As a pterodon owner, all I can really add is that crafter’s delineations and Careful Observation are your friends.

Hi, am Saint and have finished all of the relic tools. My best advice is to watch YouTube vids and expect for your crafts to fail a lot until you start getting cozy with how they work.

Here's some vids I'd recommend as they also helped me learn:
https://youtu.be/xad1rGxpkOA (mainly for Ishgard restoration but it does touch on the basics and general theory for experts)

https://youtu.be/OuN8ZeND1xk (More specific for Skysteel tools and goes into possible scenarios you can encounter.)

If you happen to be in Primal and need some help, feel free to message me! I'd be happy to give some extra advice on top.

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Originally Posted by Velvet_Lunarfang

non-specialist 2764/2796/554. specialist 2784/2816/569

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/ac "Muscle Memory" <wait.3>
/ac "Inner Quiet" <wait.2>
/ac Manipulation <wait.2>
/ac Veneration <wait.2>
/ac "Waste Not" <wait.2>
/ac Groundwork <wait.3>
/ac Groundwork <wait.3>
/ac Groundwork <wait.3>
/ac "Preparatory Touch" <wait.3>
/ac Innovation <wait.2>
/ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
/ac Manipulation <wait.2>
/echo Macro #1 finished <se.1>

/ac Innovation <wait.2>
/ac "Basic Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Standard Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Basic Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Standard Touch" <wait.3>
/ac Innovation <wait.2>
/ac Observe <wait.3>
/ac "Focused Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Great Strides" <wait.2>
/ac "Byregot's Blessing" <wait.3>
/ac "Basic Synthesis" <wait.3>
/ac "Basic Synthesis" <wait.3>
/echo Craft finished <se.2>

Here. This requires a Specialist, HQ Chili Crab and HQ Cunning Syrup. It should reach tier 2 about 94% of the time dependent on a Pliant proc, otherwise just tier 1. Test it once or twice on a Trial Synthesis first with the mentioned consumables. It's a little longer than manual crafting but should get your Skysteel Tools done.

Otherwise I'd watch a few guides. I had a 97% rate of tier 3 quality across 8 Skysteel tools with similar stats to yours. Go for a Reflect opener if you dislike high rng, read up on finisher breakpoints and it's quite straightforward. Sure, it's frustrating when you've been used to plugging in a macro for years and you almost feel entitled to have the craft be easy because you have good gear and can make Master Recipe's (I don't mean that in a condescending way, I can understand it), but it's worth figuring out. It's quite satisfying when you do.

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Originally Posted by ICountFrom0

*wince* that Crafting Point is just so low.

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All of their stats are fine.