Neck slider when?

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Originally Posted by Theodric

The point is that Elezen are quite clearly meant to be the game's equivalent of Elves. Which they are, though rather than be handled in a way that makes them live up to their usual popularity they're now held hostage to niche aesthetics that can apparently never, ever be changed or improved upon.

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Get used to it, this is Final Fantasy. Elezen are quite clearly meant to be the game's equivalent of Elvaan btw.

Also Jak & Daxter are elves too, right?

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Originally Posted by HollowedDoll

Get used to it, this is Final Fantasy. Elezen are quite clearly meant to be the game's equivalent of Elvaan btw.

Also Jak & Daxter are elves too, right?

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I don’t think it being “final fantasy” justifies poor proportions.

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Originally Posted by HollowedDoll

Get used to it, this is Final Fantasy.

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Final Fantasy games typically actively embrace attractive aesthetics, though.

Elezen just aren't as good looking as they could and should be. It's been a pretty common complaint over the years and the contributing factor as why so few people actually play them. Of those who do, many seem to cling to them purely so they can 'stand out'.

It's fine to agree to disagree, though. It's just a video game at the end of the day.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

Final Fantasy games typically actively embrace attractive aesthetics, though.

Elezen just aren't as good looking as they could and should be. It's been a pretty common complaint over the years and the contributing factor as why so few people actually play them. Of those who do, many seem to cling to them purely so they can 'stand out'.

It's fine to agree to disagree, though. It's just a video game at the end of the day.

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But isn't it kinda rude to like, hey your concept of elves is shit, make it more like everyone else. Like it's fine to have a preference, but I feel like it's disrespectful to the vision they were made with.

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Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami

Me disliking their horrible proportions is lack of creativity? Wonder how people feel about the proportions of male viera and their posture which is obviously a problem…

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Elvaan have been like this since 2002, Elezen are based on them. I don't see why anyone would have a problem with male viera proportions they're pretty much hyur like, as for the posture, it's a weird anime one.

I did not use such words to describe my feelings on the matter. I do not swear, on this site at least.

Given the lack of the race's popularity in general, though, I'd wager that the development team are well aware that they are a niche at best.

It'd be rude to randomly attack people for playing an Elezen. It isn't rude to weigh in on a thread revolving around the discussion of Elezen proportions to put forward my opinion on...Elezen proportions.

Elves are usually my go to in fantasy games where they're available. Especially ruggedly handsome Elves with a bit of muscle on them. Alas, even a decade after the game's original launch we're still lacking one of the most common tropes in a fantasy setting - a tall male option with classically handsome features and chiselled muscle. Pretty much every playable option has a major downside which is why requests for expanded character customisation happen to be common.

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Originally Posted by HollowedDoll

Elvaan have been like this since 2002, Elezen are based on them. I don't see why anyone would have a problem with male viera proportions they're pretty much hyur like, as for the posture, it's a weird anime one.

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It worked for the art style of ff11. It just looks plain weird and unnatural in 14. There's ways to be actually creative without making things look disjointed. The posture literally gives them a potbelly in 90% of glams. Thats just poor design.Dunno how i have a lack of creativity for not liking strange proportions lol

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Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami

It worked for the art style of ff11. It just looks plain weird and unnatural in 14. There's ways to be actually creative without making things look disjointed. The posture literally gives them a potbelly in 90% of glams. Thats just poor design.Dunno how i have a lack of creativity for not liking strange proportions lol

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At the end of the day that's your opinion, personally I don't see how it's unnatural when they're literally the same. Agreed about the posture at least.

http://ffxidats.caarrie.com/MGalleryItem.php?id=2435
https://i.imgur.com/wXHE3rG.png

I don't know!

personally i'm a fan of the redbill scarf