5.57 patch notes! They did it!

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Originally Posted by Tlamila

Weirdly enough, I see people use essences and actions (as well as go in with levelled honors) in CLL and Dalriada all the time. But in DR instead, people usually go with honors not even unlocked, and only like half use essences. I don't know why.

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A lot of the essence users moved to PF essence runs, leaving the "I can't be bothered to contribute" crowd to themselves.

Hmm?
They didn't do the ONE thing I was expecting - let you upgrade the i520 tomestone weapons to i530 from just running the 24-man?
It's all about Eureka 2, Electric Boogaloo instead? And for some reason 900 Revelation/week early?

I guess there's still 5.58.

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Originally Posted by Jennah

Hmm?
They didn't do the ONE thing I was expecting - let you upgrade the i520 tomestone weapons to i530 from just running the 24-man?
It's all about Eureka 2, Electric Boogaloo instead? And for some reason 900 Revelation/week early?

I guess there's still 5.58.

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That didn't even register in my mind. Huh, that is weird. It's not like it would have hurt anything to let players upgrade the tomestone weapons at this point.

I'd rather they give us an alternate way of augmenting the current tomestone weapons and completely abandon the current 24 man series. They were a poorly designed, poorly implemented experiment that failed in every front. Were it not for the amount of time and resources it would take, I'd even go as far as suggesting to completely remove it and design a new 24 man raid series from scratch.

But alas, guess it will remain as a lesson on why not to pander to a small demographic.

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Originally Posted by lezard21

I'd rather they give us an alternate way of augmenting the current tomestone weapons and completely abandon the current 24 man series. They were a poorly designed, poorly implemented experiment that failed in every front. Were it not for the amount of time and resources it would take, I'd even go as far as suggesting to completely remove it and design a new 24 man raid series from scratch.

But alas, guess it will remain as a lesson on why not to pander to a small demographic.

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Despite what anyone thinks of the current raids, this is how they have handled the tomestone gear upgrades in the past. This is nothing new. It worked in the past, and it works just fine now. There's no pandering involved. It's standard procedure. The content of the raids themselves have nothing to do with it.

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

Despite what anyone thinks of the current raids, this is how they have handled the tomestone gear upgrades in the past. This is nothing new. It worked in the past, and it works just fine now. There's no pandering involved. It's standard procedure. The content of the raids themselves have nothing to do with it.

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I was not saying augmenting gear through raids is pandering. I was saying the current raids are the result of pandering to a small crowd, and as a result they feel disconnected and poorly implemented, and I'd rather not be forced to run them again.

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Originally Posted by Dzian

DR gives an absolute truck load of mettle. It has done for a while now.

And it's much faster to with people having honours

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600k an absolute truckload? It's about as much as single CE in Zadnor gives, hardly a truckload. Dalriada gives 3mil and takes much less time.

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Originally Posted by lezard21

I was not saying augmenting gear through raids is pandering. I was saying the current raids are the result of pandering to a small crowd, and as a result they feel disconnected and poorly implemented, and I'd rather not be forced to run them again.

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Outside of the story quests, what makes them feel any more poorly designed than previous raids?

Wow they didn't touch the drop rate on Sartauvoir's notes? I mean I finally got mine after literally 50+ attempts so I would have laughed and cried at the same time if they did this but nobody should have to contend with RNG like that moving forward.

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Originally Posted by Velnora

Outside of the story quests, what makes them feel any more poorly designed than previous raids?

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Difficultywise they are a huge step backwards, even easier than ARR raids on patch; particularly the last raid in which every boss except the last one only have 2 mechanics that they keep spamming over and over with a very slight variation; the areas get progressively more boring and simple; the story is bad and out of place.

The only positive thing they have is the last boss music rearrangement from each raid, the ones that are straight out from Nier are terrible and ear ripping.

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Originally Posted by Tlamila

600k an absolute truckload? It's about as much as single CE in Zadnor gives, hardly a truckload. Dalriada gives 3mil and takes much less time.

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Mettle is worthless. Proof of Mettle is only useful for DRS and it arrived 3 months too late since the people that wanted to clear DRS have already done so without Proof of Mettle. Thus no reason why to run Dalriada since it offers no good reward and now it's a lot more time efficient to run DR for simultaneously 2 relic steps at once.