Bozja is beyond bad. Why can't you vote kick people in Delubrum Reginae?

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Originally Posted by wereotter

Can confirm. Got to floor 100, and three times in a row, no artifact. DR offered more rewards outside of the pottery shard, and with the poor luck I had, took less time.

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This would be because they nerfed it into the ground. Out of 12 runs with 1 run being 10 floors between 51 and 60 on Saturday and Sunday I got 8 shards! After Tuesday I did roughly 30 floors and literally nothing dropped. Not sure the drop rate above floor 100 but I assume it was nerfed also.

You are forced to do Delubrum.

The worst part about DR right now besides the trouble with people leaving and no reinforce, is the bosses have ridiculous HP making DR take so long you actually go numb during it.

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Originally Posted by Cetek14

OP posts a valid concern about design flaw, still gets attacked in the comments. Square Enix Simps Squad is growing strong as ever.

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It’s really OP’s framing of the title. Delubrum and Bozja are NOT bad. They’re actually pretty fun an engaging and when I’m tired of it I can shelf it and do something else.

Bozja is flawed =/= Bozja is bad. The flaws need their own categorization to be taken seriously. The buffs to Castrum actually quelled my own complaints about the content, but it’s also fair to judge other overlooked things like being able to kick undesirables.

It doesn’t make sense to call all of it bad and cry about it on the forums when it’s just one small thing that has to do more with player behavior that OP is crying about. Instead of making this thread, there should be an ongoing thread about how the player experience can be improved in Bozja.

I think it's fun. My only complaint is that I wish they had just made it into a proper Alliance Raid with all the features normal ones have. Right now it feels kinda scuffed and half-way there but not quite.

So far as I can tell, it's less a 'design decision' and more a side effect of how Delubrum seems to be implemented. Due to the fact that it doesn't enforce roles—and does use regional/zone rules a'la the Southern Front or Eureka, i.e. allowing things like Lost Actions—it does not appear to be set up like a normal duty instance.

And from some very cursory poking at how things seem to work while in Delubrum, it looks to me like this means they implemented it like the Bozjan Southern Front, or a Eureka zone, which just happens to match people into parties as it loads them in and has a much lower population cap. So even though it's a "raid", functionally, it looks like it might actually be implemented as a second Bozjan zone under the hood... which, admittedly, makes a weird sort of sense if I squint. (I also strongly suspect that if I'm right about that, it is why—just like Eureka or the Southern Front—Delubrum is not in Duty Finder.)

Obviously, you can't arbitrarily kick someone from Bozja itself (or Eureka, previously), much less say "hey we need a new person in this Eureka instance" or whatever. Which... unfortunately, seems to mean you cannot do those things in Delubrum either, because it looks like it might be a sort of mutant exploration zone (as opposed to a normal duty of some form).

I should note I actually quite enjoy Delubrum, but from what I can tell there are definitely some implementation quirks...

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Originally Posted by Puremallace

This would be because they nerfed it into the ground. Out of 12 runs with 1 run being 10 floors between 51 and 60 on Saturday and Sunday I got 8 shards! After Tuesday I did roughly 30 floors and literally nothing dropped. Not sure the drop rate above floor 100 but I assume it was nerfed also.

You are forced to do Delubrum.

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I don’t think they changed the POTD rate. Nothing in the patch notes. I’ve known people who’ve been very lucky there and people who’ve been very unlucky. It was never a great chance so maybe your luck just ran out.

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Originally Posted by MPK

3 parties in a row now that I have 1-3 people who just log out and log back in right before we finish. Is this content that bad that the devs dont even test it?

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GM them. If you can identify them, GM them -- that's an exploit and that should NOT be allowed.

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Originally Posted by MPK

3 parties in a row now that I have 1-3 people who just log out and log back in right before we finish. Is this content that bad that the devs dont even test it?

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People are also doing this in the Eden raids as well, just to get the gear at the end - gambling on the idea that people won't wait and just leave. It's beyond annoying.

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Originally Posted by Endeleon

That's cause they test and design under the japanese mindset and Japanese people would never do something so nasty and selfish.

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Yes, japanese culture is different from ours. Indeed.
But being a japanese player doesn't mean you're an angel on earth.
There are shitty persons all over the planet, japan included. If the player want to play selfish for whatever reason, he'll do, so yes, that must be a "reason", but that's still a flaw

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Originally Posted by Wrestlefire769

GM them. If you can identify them, GM them -- that's an exploit and that should NOT be allowed.

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Unfortunately you can't prove their internet didn't simply go down during that period of time. I can't see the GM's taking action if you reported it.