Toxic healers

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Originally Posted by Ilyrian

Also, don't forget that H Switch at 71, for a new tank who's not coming geared to the ts from Stormblood is going to get battered even if they don't do the full first pull.
Same gear jump as Bardam's and Doma.

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Every gear jump that is Stormblood+ sucks tbh, even HSwitch -> Dohn Mheg sucks but mostly because Dohn Mheg has a lot going on and majority of the mobs have mini tank busters lol.
Even full 500ilvl Tank & Healer doing full pulls on Amaurot sucks (or rather 440ilvl because sync) when DPS are new.

The issue I see is healer downtime seriously needs to be addressed. Only a healer can misbehave in this manner and still fulfill their minimum requirement.

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Originally Posted by Gemina

The issue I see is healer downtime seriously needs to be addressed. Only a healer can misbehave in this manner and still fulfill their minimum requirement.

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Honestly I don't have any downtime healing - the mechanics are there for healers to be active, it's a player issue not a game one.

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Originally Posted by Gemina

The issue I see is healer downtime seriously needs to be addressed. Only a healer can misbehave in this manner and still fulfill their minimum requirement.

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Not really, dps requirements for 90% of the game is so low one dps in 4 man can afk with no issues and 2 for 8 mans. Tanks can do this too, since dps requirements are so low.

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Originally Posted by Ilyrian

Honestly I don't have any downtime healing - the mechanics are there for healers to be active, it's a player issue not a game one.

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Downtime being not time spent healing.

I could agree that it is a player issue at its core, but what is in a jerkface's nature to do is out of the control of the devs. What you do is create more dungeons like The Burn and Amaurot and keep the ilv sync reasonable so it isn't faceroll. You also make it so players can't be undergeared. I am not sure why this is rocket science for the dev team, but I'm just a player.

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Originally Posted by Bsrking5

Not really, dps requirements for 90% of the game is so low one dps in 4 man can afk with no issues and 2 for 8 mans. Tanks can do this too, since dps requirements are so low.

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Yes and no. First I was referring to just dungeons since that is what the OP was specifically referring to and not 8-man. Second I was referring to what is the "primary" duty for each role. I quote that because I don't want to get into a cobweb argument about all jobs needing to DPS. While a lot has changed over the years, what has not is some dungeons can have other roles pick up the slack for another such as a healer or DPS tanking, and others cannot. It is also becoming far more common for dungeon bosses to have stack marker mechanics making it near impossible to clear without a tank and healer performing their primary duty. It can still be cleared, but it will be pretty messy. As for DPS, all dungeons have a DPS requirement, even if it is low and the instance will eventually be cleared, you can always look at the HP of all the mobs and bosses as just one giant HP pool. While nearly all dungeons can allow for one DPS to AFK, it seriously adds time to the run even with the other three contributing what they can.

As someone else said this should have been posted in the duty finder ranting thread.

Now to be sarcastic how else are they going to get their blood for their blood lily if it was a whm.

Also gotta love the whole this one time this one healer was mean so all healers must be this way. As a healer main I loathe wall to wall pulls, but that's mostly due to getting a lot of bads. When I say bads I mean anything from poorly geared people, no aoes, people not using their CDs, or a mix of all of those. Yet I've been conditioned to expect that so when it doesn't happen in a dungeon that it makes sense to do it if feels slow. Though I won't go and pull more because I'm not a jerk.

Hahaha, last night I too encountered a Healer that pulled so many ahead when I'm still behind (leveling up Dark Knight) and then when they died they had the gall to say in Party Chat about how I should pull mobs that they are pulling, complete with a condescending "This Tank, LOL" comment.

We wiped but eeh, afterwards everything went smoothly.

As for that comment, I just ignored it. Why waste time getting bothered by something like that anyways :P

I main healers and I dont recall ever telling a tank how to do their job. They pull how they are comfy, and I am expected to adapt.

The person was a jerk, dont paint all healers with the same brush

I would have left immediately.

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Originally Posted by Darsien

Wall to wall? Good. 2 packs? Fine enough. Single packs? Unacceptable that late into the game.

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I don't understand why this is such a controversial statement, lol. Single packs pull is already *too much* for mid-level dungeons, not to mention high-level ones. I mean, I'm not gonna kick a Tank that's doing it--well, not unless the rest of the group is in agreement to do so, hahaha, but single pack pull in late game dungeons is just..... well, I'm gonna raise my eyebrow when I see that, for sure.

I mean like, the difference between pulling a single pack to at least two packs is really really minimal in terms of difficulty, hahaha.