Getting out of hand

The note about the development team is so true.

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Originally Posted by Daniolaut

-Forums.
The forums have almost always been pretty bad, but literally, this person recently posts about "raids becoming less optional." Instead of discussing how content is becoming less optional the thread is hijacked by people saying Alliance raids are not raids. Like seriously? Who cares, the person didnt say "alliance raids are too hard" they said, that its no longer an option. Which if you want to do just the story, you should be able to. Nothing else is forced on you. You dont have to do FATEs, or Leves, or crafting to complete the story. Imagine if everything became required to complete to progress the story. I bet you'd all be complaining. Imagine end game raiders being forced to get all max level crafters and participate in Ishgard restoration, and Eureka just to unlock a raid, you'd all be crying to no end. You all complain having to do the story in the first place already.

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You're already required to do dungeons to progress in the story, and that's already something people complain about and I know someone personally who quit directly because of the two being inseparable

Anyway people are people, more news at 11 I guess?

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Originally Posted by Theodric

I suppose it reflects the state of the community rather well when the tone of someone's post is of greater concern than the horrid cheating and scamming that has come to infest the game itself.

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it’s wild how no ones addressing a lot of the post critically, most of the replies just boiled down to “it’s not a problem, deal with it or unsub” or “your a troll for wanting this game you pay for to be better”

it’s scary how common this is, on both the forums and reddit

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Originally Posted by CrispyUnicycle

it’s wild how no ones addressing a lot of the post critically, most of the replies just boiled down to “it’s not a problem, deal with it or unsub” or “your a troll for wanting this game you pay for to be better”

it’s scary how common this is, on both the forums and reddit

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If you really want discuss the game without mobs repeating same things over and over, there's some good Reddit about that. Mainsub is not a good place to talk about the state of the game, that place filled with fanatics, NPC, people using it as personal blog and some arts here and there.
Forums nowadays is more fitting about complaining and sharing your thoughts, at least some part of community reacts and discuss problems before thread will be flooded with unsub therapists and apologists, trying to shut up everyone who have different opinions.

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Originally Posted by CrispyUnicycle

it’s wild how no ones addressing a lot of the post critically, most of the replies just boiled down to “it’s not a problem, deal with it or unsub” or “your a troll for wanting this game you pay for to be better”

it’s scary how common this is, on both the forums and reddit

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It's a form of gas-lighting, mostly. It's certainly true that some posters could stand to be much more civil in regards to their contributions to the forum. Yet at the same time, even when posters are incredibly polite and constructive they often face the same response - assuming they even get a response in the first place.

There's also something of a weird shadow war going on in the background at times. As another poster pointed out earlier on within this very thread, there's a Twitter blog devoted to quoting people from this site which usually leads to the account's followers seeking the quote out and essentially attacking it within the thread.

I've seen posters make a perfectly reasonable suggestions or statements in a thread only to be attacked because whoever runs that particular Twitter account decided that they didn't like it.

There's many other issues too, such as the community representatives rarely posting on this forum after their initial introduction posts. Or responding to legitimate concerns raised by the community, such as the long overlooked post found here:

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...ver-getting-it

Which, objectively is a pretty valid subject to be addressed as a high priority. Especially when this isn't the first time that European players have been left out of promotional campaigns for exclusive items.

The OP is a coward. If your balls are as big as that post you made, you'd bring yourself back in here and talk to these people instead of your one post pot shot and then running off.

Waste of a thread, nothing is "getting out of hand". Been like this for years. There are plenty of ShB complaint threads if you wanted to complain about lack of content.

Is this your first mmo, @op?

The game is not that worst that it was back in ARR.

The fact is FFXIV as all others MMOs starts to feel like a routine after years of playing.

Tomes routine.
Craft routine.
Gathering routine.
Dramas routine :p (I have to assume when I'm bored, even if I don't like them, I tend to step in XD)

About RMT, bots and so... SE is not that bad to deal with them, to compare with some MMO F2P/P2W.

But I agree on one part : the lack of "fun". Except PodT/HuH, and treasure maps dungeons, the locked party size 1/4/8 ends to be rigid and bothering, especially for leveling. A lot of contents are already faceroll sync when overgeared players are in the party, it is disappointing to be forced to run as a fixed team size.

OP has its points, hes mad and frustrated about something he loves, i feel him... and its true on many parts, like the PF abuse and gil selling etc...