Dear SE, please never again put irregular tomestones into Frontline

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Originally Posted by RenoKreuz

yea just like in normal objective based PVP, win team fights = win objective. You cannot ignore PVP. The problem is the majority of player base is so bad at PVP it's laughable. I swear there are DPS who have not set their skills from pvp profile thinking why do my skills not work??

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Totally, I've had some people recently still try to focus the objective and always be passive, and like if you're in last place you just CAN'T do that. I've pushed people to pinch and have been called insane yet the kills at the end legit got us the game.

People sit on nodes for too long and don't take advantage of killing off from the side to help reduce BH/BF but also keep your team on top if you're winning or close the gap if you're losing.

Man, the sheer laziness of people in my last match was just astounding.

"We're Flames, of course we'll lose."
"I don't care."
"I get XP either way."
"I get tomestones anyway."
"Winning just gets you more XP and Wolf Marks and the achievement gear looks bad."
"It's quicker to just feed and requeue."

I'd honestly prefer getting stuck with a team of bots. At least you can usually pretend that they're actually trying. Christ.

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Originally Posted by Wyssahtyn

Man, the sheer laziness of people in my last match was just astounding.

"We're Flames, of course we'll lose."
"I don't care."
"I get XP either way."
"I get tomestones anyway."
"Winning just gets you more XP and Wolf Marks and the achievement gear looks bad."
"It's quicker to just feed and requeue."

I'd honestly prefer getting stuck with a team of bots. At least you can usually pretend that they're actually trying. Christ.

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I feel this so hard. Some people really stink man. Like, stay far, far away from pvp if you're going to be that selfish and unmotivated.

Common sense is rarer than unicorn dust in PvP.

Maybe if ones listens to others that been doing pvp for long time wouldn't be so bad. Plain dumb that seeing others chasing them into there camps and they feeding others points. They don't listen that need to be together in 2 groups and not be in 4 groups to protect nodes So they let other teams take them over. Hope they never do put moogle tomes in pvp again draws in to many bad pvp players. They think it's easy 5 tomes just stand there and not listen to group leaders.