Roulette: Main Quest Scenarios...

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Originally Posted by Rilifane

It has been mentioned about a hundred times in every thread about this topic: because people would try to find out who the new player is and kick them so they can skip the cutscenes.
MSQ roulette awards that insane amount of exp + a chunk of tomestones for the sole reason of everyone being forced to watch the cutscenes. It's the devs way of thanking you for your time and making it possible for new players to get into those two dungeons and experience everything "on set" instead of being rushed through and forced to watch them later at the inn.

Don't want to spent 30-40min watching cutscenes? Don't do the MSQ roulette.
Many players do it regulary and it's a great way to grab exp with next to no effort. You can do all sort of things while the cutscenes play. But if you prefer to get your exp and tomestones elsewhere, you're free to do so.

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i didnt read the other threads and im not trying to get out of the MSQ roulette. Tbh, I've maybe done the MSQ roulette 5x since the change, I dont really care to do it. I'm just trying to understand the motives.

I never considered "finding out who the new person is and kicking them", instead i imagined throwing up a PF for MSQ roulette for people that wanna skip cutscenes. That way new players arent affected and in theory, new players would run it with more new players with duty finder. I would never condone singling out the newbie once everyones already in the instance, thats just abuse.

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Originally Posted by Nora_of_Mira

i didnt read the other threads and im not trying to get out of the MSQ roulette. Tbh, I've maybe done the MSQ roulette 5x since the change, I dont really care to do it. I'm just trying to understand the motives.

I never considered "finding out who the new person is and kicking them", instead i imagined throwing up a PF for MSQ roulette for people that wanna skip cutscenes. That way new players arent affected and in theory, new players would run it with more new players with duty finder. I would never condone singling out the newbie once everyones already in the instance, thats just abuse.

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And then everyone would PF it, and newbies would be queuing for hours, defeating the point of the roulette.

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Originally Posted by Nora_of_Mira

...to the benefit of the new players, no? take out the new players and what reason do we have for cutscenes?

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Do you honestly think they'd let you have the same rewards for something you can complete in 15 minutes due to mashing the skip button?

Time spent in the roulette tripled, therefore so did the reward.

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no reason for it to remain on screen for so long.

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There is a perfectly valid reason. There are multiple different client language settings. All languages must be able to hear and/or read the same scene in the same period of time and as such, all cutscenes are paced at the slowest language. What can be said or read in English might only take 10 seconds, but in other languages it might take 15 seconds and it is extremely selfish of players to want to hamper the experience of other players because they are dissatisfied with content that they don't actually HAVE to do.

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Originally Posted by Nora_of_Mira

i didnt read the other threads

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Don't worry, there will (yet again) be another new one tomorrow

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

And then everyone would PF it, and newbies would be queuing for hours, defeating the point of the roulette.

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people PF expert roulette, I don't see it affecting much.

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Originally Posted by Nora_of_Mira

people PF expert roulette, I don't see it affecting much.

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Because there's no reason to PF Expert Roulette.
This would be a HUGE incentive to PF MSQ Roulette.

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

Because there's no reason to PF Expert Roulette.
This would be a HUGE incentive to PF MSQ Roulette.

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yeah, an incentive for people that normally avoid MSQ roulette. The people, like people in this thread, that dont mind the cutscenes would still queue up in DF. the people using PF would mostly be people that werent queuing in DF in the first place.

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Originally Posted by Nora_of_Mira

yeah, an incentive for people that normally avoid MSQ roulette. The people, like people in this thread, that dont mind the cutscenes would still queue up in DF. the people using PF would mostly be people that werent queuing in DF in the first place.

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You forget that the purpose of roulettes is to help new people clear old dungeons and not for you to get rewards.

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Originally Posted by Erendis

You forget that the purpose of roulettes is to help new people clear old dungeons and not for you to get rewards.

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thats only partially true, as why do we have rewards at all then. i can queue up with my FC in expert for a quicker run to get the same rewards (as with any other roulette) but MSQ roulette is the special one that gets more attention. I'm fine with how it is as the rewards arent worth it for me, im just surprised at the lack of options this far into the game's life after the MSQ change.

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Originally Posted by Nora_of_Mira

people PF expert roulette, I don't see it affecting much.

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Expert roulette doesn't impact a new player's experience of the MSQ and its lore so it's not a relevant example.

If the cutscenes in the MSQ roulette are bugging you that much, why aren't you running dungeons appropriate to your job's level instead? If you chain run them with a competent group, you'll be getting roughly the same XP for the same time investment but you'll also be getting gear that you can use for glamour or turn in for GC seals. It's actually more rewarding for you but it does require more actual effort on your part.

Or is the real point you want massive rewards for minimal effort and time investment? Sorry, SE isn't going to give you that.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

Expert roulette doesn't impact a new player's experience of the MSQ and its lore so it's not a relevant example.

If the cutscenes in the MSQ roulette are bugging you that much, why aren't you running dungeons appropriate to your job's level instead? If you chain run them with a competent group, you'll be getting roughly the same XP for the same time investment but you'll also be getting gear that you can use for glamour or turn in for GC seals. It's actually more rewarding for you but it does require more actual effort on your part.

Or is the real point you want massive rewards for minimal effort and time investment? Sorry, SE isn't going to give you that.

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I dont think you're reading anything im saying and just projecting your animosity against my difference of opinion on the MSQ roulette. And I DO run the highest dungeon to level my alts, I avoid the MSQ roulette, as I said before.