The DPS is not the Healer

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Originally Posted by Videra

I'm sorry that you have issues with tanks pulling at a reasonable speed?

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People like you make me pray we wall lock every single 3 trash mob, just to force you do the game as intended and not force people to play outside the intended mechanics.

I pray for that day as a MT, I will laugh in glory as you no longer can force your playstyle on others. You wanna be entitled and childish? Then I think the developers should treat yall like children.

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Originally Posted by CazzT

The DPS aren't part of the equation of keeping the tank alive. So why would their input about large pulls be relevant?

If the DPS can't DPS enough and the group wipes because of that, then either try again or pull smaller. But I honestly don't recall ever hitting this particular wall while I was tanking.

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Uhh what? The dps do in fact play into a wall to wall pool. CDs are finite and so are MP for healers. If the trash does not die fast enough you will. Do you even bro?

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Originally Posted by Mistyregions

People like you make me pray we wall lock every single 3 trash mob, just to force you do the game as intended and not force people to play outside the intended mechanics.

I pray for that day as a MT, I will laugh in glory as you no longer can force your playstyle on others. You wanna be entitled and childish? Then I think the developers should treat yall like children.

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I think you're projecting. It's a simple fact that pulling wall to wall is easier on time and resources than pulling one pack by one pack. This is why I tank, so I don't have to deal with people like you arbitrarily making content slow to 'play the game as intended.' Try again.

In all honesty, you're both trying to enforce your opinions as the right one.

And that's not how you use projecting.

I have bad anxiety. So it's kinda hard for me to take the time to ask out of fear that I have the type of party that has that "GOGOGO!" mentality, and will run ahead of me to pull stuff themselves or will get mad at me for taking a second to type something.

Instead, I just pull about two packs at a time, maybe add that one stray mob on, and see how that goes (Sometimes one pack is a good test pack to see how fast stuff dies). If we wipe or everyone has too hard a time keeping up, I take it slower. That usually works out pretty well for me.

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Originally Posted by Videra

I think you're projecting. It's a simple fact that pulling wall to wall is easier on time and resources than pulling one pack by one pack. This is why I tank, so I don't have to deal with people like you arbitrarily making content slow to 'play the game as intended.' Try again.

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It's easier and time effective, but is not the intended design.

Look at the first 71 dungeon. Pull wall to wall with 71 gear....not intended. Just because YOU out gear it or get bored and want to speed run doesn't mean your expectations should interfere with someones playstyle when they are playing as intended. As intended, intended by the design not by play base.

IMO dps opinion doesn't factor into how large the pulls should be.

If the healer can't do a big pull, everyone dies.

If the tank can't do a big pull, everyone dies.

If the DPS can't do a big pull...the things just die slowly, and i guarantee that would be the same case without large pulls.

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Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

Pulling multiple waves with a healer is AF gear and not even full 430/440 accessories isn't much fun.

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I, for one, love it when the tank pulls wall to wall, and multiple waves, even when my gear isn't up to snuff yet. As a healer, I like healing, and large pulls is where I can shine in the healing aspect. If there's small pulls I just have to sit there... ..Doing "Art of War. Art of War. Art of War. Art of War....."

That seems far less fun to me.

If DPS has a problem with large pulls and speaks out, I tell him to Git Gut and deal.

Silences most of them. Ones that dont, gets the Vote Kick. Usually near the end of the run. Lulz.

I'm amazed by the amout of entitlement and rudeness spilling out there for winning mere minutes in an online videogame.