Duty finder issues

I'd just like a way to prevent long strings of the same dungeon. I've had thirteen days of Aurum Vale on two separate occasions.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

I'd just like a way to prevent long strings of the same dungeon. I've had thirteen days of Aurum Vale on two separate occasions.

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Yes it would be nice because i don't want to end up in WoD or LotA all the time i que up for alliance roulette, but that also falls under the roulette rule aka. RNGesus hates us.

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Originally Posted by Ilan

Yes it would be nice because i don't want to end up in WoD or LotA all the time i que up for alliance roulette, but that also falls under the roulette rule aka. RNGesus hates us.

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Roulette combined with the fact that you can only get the highest-level dungeon that EVERYONE has unlocked. That means in alliance raids it only takes one person out of 24 to be under Lv60, and you have no choice but to do Crystal Tower yet again.

For me the worst part of Alliance roulette is when you know you probably only got that one because enough people qued up for it solo because of WT. At least that's what I blame when it's weeks of Crystal tower stuff except on monday or tuesday when people go oh yeah WT and you finally break the streak with a Dun Scaith that has a first time bonus attached to it.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

Roulette combined with the fact that you can only get the highest-level dungeon that EVERYONE has unlocked. That means in alliance raids it only takes one person out of 24 to be under Lv60, and you have no choice but to do Crystal Tower yet again.

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You don't have to explain to me how roulettes work, i know that, its still annoying if you get the same stuff over and over and over again. Thats why i rarely do roulettes.

The only think I'd like being done with DF is get a notice when "adventurer in need" changes.
I'm these days "fishing" for dps or healer just to break a bit from tanking, and now I need check statuses manually every now and then.

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Originally Posted by LalaRu

The only think I'd like being done with DF is get a notice when "adventurer in need" changes.
I'm these days "fishing" for dps or healer just to break a bit from tanking, and now I need check statuses manually every now and then.

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Yea I get excited when it's dps. I can set back and relax a bit during a dungeon instead of having to contend with direction the mobs are facing, who's taking damage, who's pulling threat, where the pats are etc. etc. All I have to worry about is staying out of the aoes and killing what needs to be killed.

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Originally Posted by kikix12

You get about the same amount of experience from EVERY leveling roulette, wherever you end up.

The total of mob experience + bonus experience is always going to come close to the threshold they decided for the leveling roulette to give by means of changing the bonus experience amount. In other words, the only time doing the leveling roulette is a waste of time if you end up in low level dungeon is if you never actually finish it...but then you just wasted time in queue, not the leveling roulette run.

Except they don't want that. If people could manipulate what they get in the leveling roulette, people would manipulate what they get in it. And if they did then it would slowly stop serving its purpose. Right now there's not much of importance in whether you are preformed or not. All you need is one tank or healer in party for fast queue and there's little incentive to look for other people. You'd just be wasting time that could serve better to run through the dungeon. But if pre-made parties could avoid unwanted dungeons, people would find it valuable enough to waste 10-15 minutes looking for people to do it with, thus taking all of those people away from the queue. Less and less people would fill up the slots for queues that need them.


Also, seriously people. Learn what is the meaning of "roulette". Do you go to casinos and say "hey, this roulette, you should make sure it's only going in black because that's all I want to bet on"? No. The ball can fall in any of the boxes with equal chances. That's the whole point of a roulette. That's the whole point of the duty finder roulettes being called roulettes.

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I get that. But they already made PF tags so they acknowledge that people are going to use that for preform. I know its primarily relief for DPS who's ques are 10+ minutes, but still. Maybe if they just made the option available if you are queuing inside the FC workshop, like how you can for diadem. And not make it a guaranteed dungeon. More like if your overall level average is greater than 61, you'll get anything between 51 to 61 depending on what your lowest level party member allows. Only with full preform. Its convoluted enough that most wont bother but available for those who want to go through the trouble. I honestly don't think that would impact the system that negatively. My old FC preformed almost exclusively, and I'm sure others do too.

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Originally Posted by Ursa_Vonfiebryd

I honestly don't think that would impact the system that negatively. My old FC preformed almost exclusively, and I'm sure others do too.

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If that was the case, DPS line would not be so horrendously long. As it is, DPS + healer/tank is going to be queued almost instantly for leveling roulette. That means that all those DPS's in the DPS line are solo players or DPS duo players. That means that they don't even have a healer or tank to party with, for whatever reason.

There is zero reason for Square Enix to bother implementing some convoluted mechanism for players to be able to bypass their simple solution to never-filling queues for old dungeons. That's going through a lot of effort to sabotage themselves, while the roulettes work fine and they work as intended. There's nothing broken here, there's nothing to fix here. The only problems that the roulettes have are related to the community, things like class distribution and such.

Party finder tags are there to simplify forming parties. That's obvious, yes, but I seem to need to state the obvious. Nowhere in the party finder does it state that by using it you can receive some sort of preferential treatment. The point still stands. If you want a specific dungeon (like a dungeon at your level range) then run that dungeon. The bonus that the roulette gives is there to incentivize you into running something you may not want to run, which then can be taken advantage to fill in the queues if necessary. It's not to progress you faster every day through your levels. That's the outcome, not the point of it.

By the posts I'm gathering that most people would like:
A.) A better adventurer in need system. One that notifies you and updates more regularly.
B.) A Better DF. One that includes things like group character level in deciding what dungeon it puts you into (no more sastasha runs for parties consisting of all level 40+).
c.) A DF that doesn't string you into the same dungeon over and over (if there is an option).

The only issue I can foresee is in C. If you're in queue and you've done 4 runs of copperbell back to back and someone needs copperbell and you're the only tank in queue I don't think it's fair to pass that DPS or healer by to the next one in line just because someone has done a string of dungeons. Of course that situation would be one in a million unless there is an influx of new players.

Funny thing is I remember a few years ago these same things being suggested. I am impressed by the progress they've made but I wonder why something that "SHOULD" be easy to code is not being implemented. I guess it all depends on what their management team says because even a first year intern should be able to write something that could accomplish both A and B in 30 minutes or so.