Opinion: Shadowbringers Plot

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

The trailer seems to imply some kind of time travel, it implies its been 'years' since we fought Zenos. Seems like the voice we've been hearing is an alternate reality WoL (us) from the future, attempting to 'rewrite history'.

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This isn't necessarily true. Elidibus(sp?) says he's been waiting years "for this" [to fight us (again presumably)], if I remember the trailer correctly. Remember-- that's Elidibus in Zenos' body NOT the real Zenos. At this point, we know an Ascian is controlling Zenos, so the Ascian could know this and be talking as himself rather than pretending to be Zenos.

My assumption is we beat up Solus, and defeat the Garlean empire, but in doing so we tip everything too close to the Light at which point someone goes "hey we should've really listened to that warrior of darkness", and so you go to restore the balance. But because we can't be evil and subjugate people, we'll just do what we do best, and kick hyedalyn's butt instead.

I really don't think things are actually going to go wrong at the source with that voice doing all it can prevent history from repeating itself. Just the Scions being spirited away has likely already caused a significant deviation from how things played out originally.

Not to mention it would be awkward as heck to implement an "End of the world as we know it" scenario while still allowing us access to the original world to do other forms of content prior to finishing the MSQ.

I'm still banking entirely on us traveling wherever the Scions have been taken to (Presumably the first shard), learning exactly what went wrong there, then returning to end the Garlean conflict without repeating the mistakes that caused a calamity.

In Final Fantasy III, the Warriors of Darkness were not evil, but helped balance out the world by making sure the Cloud of Light didn't destroy everything while the Onion Knights/Warriors of Light did the same for the Cloud of Darkness.

So I'm glad that they decided to soften up on the Warriors of Darkness just being all "Boy, I sure loved almost killing your sister, Alphinaud. Hahaha." in Heavensward followed by a sob story.

as any story with time travel is even hinted it's tricky to do, take DCs Flash point for example Flash saves his mom but at what cost tot eh world he knew. us becoming the warrior of darkness could be a similar thing, we changed the past to create a different world then we knew. who knows half the fun of a good story is the journey. Lets just see where Shadowbringers takes us.but loving all the plot ideas ppl have suggested.

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Originally Posted by Reiryuu

This isn't necessarily true. Elidibus(sp?) says he's been waiting years "for this" [to fight us (again presumably)], if I remember the trailer correctly. Remember-- that's Elidibus in Zenos' body NOT the real Zenos. At this point, we know an Ascian is controlling Zenos, so the Ascian could know this and be talking as himself rather than pretending to be Zenos.

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In English, the teaser says: "How many years have come and gone since that day?" Not "How long have I waited for this day."

It's a voice from a far more distant future and I doubt very much that it's Xenos/Elidibus. That scene from the trailer is more likely just another flashback, though one we haven't experienced yet.

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Originally Posted by Akonyl

My assumption is we beat up Solus, and defeat the Garlean empire, but in doing so we tip everything too close to the Light at which point someone goes "hey we should've really listened to that warrior of darkness", and so you go to restore the balance. But because we can't be evil and subjugate people, we'll just do what we do best, and kick hyedalyn's butt instead.

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But then the moral of the story would be "You should let evil things happen."

Prediction:

- Hydaelyn and Zodiark will have a conflict.

- We will defeat the empire.

- The world will have a flood of light despite someone trying to prevent it.

- We will have to go back and rewrite history.

- Post game will be the ordinary world as it is, with the effects of the events in 5.0 being confined to 5.0. Everything from 5.0 and onward will be the rewrite timeline.

- It won’t be as complex and difficult to understand as people fear. The ending will be easily conveyed.

- Garlemald/ascians will possibly take all of 5.x to defeat in order to prevent the flood again. Some Garleans might side with us.

- This will feel more like Heavensward did, and have a more western/European feel to the game.

I have a hard time imagining how the zone progression would play out if they opt for the "Source actually gets ruined by a calamity" approach. Would we have to resort to some timey-wimey stuff just to visit the ruined world for casual stuff like gathering/hunting?

It seems more probable that we'll go to a place that's already been ruined by an excess of light AKA the first shard.