Normal (newbie) version of the new Ultima fight for casuals? xD

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Originally Posted by Adeacia

From my view, ultimate already is easy mode. If it's supposed to be hard:

No pre-made parties allowed
Mechanics are completely random.

Parsers and voice chat don't work. (impossible to happen obviously)

Let's see people finish that.

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If Ultimate is such easy mode, I look forward to your world first clear then.

Parsers and voice chat callouts don't do the mechanics for you, nor do they give you the personal skill needed to perform your job at a level where the DPS needed to meet the checks is met. This post is incredibly ignorant.

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Originally Posted by Remyogic

There is a difference between Lvl sync and iLvl sync.

You can Lvl sync down to lvl 50 in lvl 70 gear and your stats will sync down to lvl50 max gear stats (ilvl 135). If you are going into First Coil, that raid was tuned around ilvl80 - 90 gear. Even lvl Sync'd, you are WAY overgeared.

This is besides the fact that all the Coil raids were nerfed to hell because VERY few people could prog them. Twintania caused more Raid teams to shatter than a bull in a china shop.

Ultimate fights will sync your Level AND your iLevel, basically ensuring you can NEVER out-gear the fight.

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Ok, i see now. Thanks for the clarification, I didnt know the iLev was a hard sync for the Ultimate fights.

I really hope they keep it that way and dont decide to dumb it down, I know I'm already ticked that a lot of the "unique" gear I thought I had is now totally common or a cash shop item.

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Originally Posted by MageBlack

I know I'm already ticked that a lot of the "unique" gear I thought I had is now totally common or a cash shop item.

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what gear is that? i hate the cash shop but i don't see what gear from fights they put in there.

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Originally Posted by SendohJin

what gear is that? i hate the cash shop but i don't see what gear from fights they put in there.

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I think he means past event items.

You know, I say let's do to these ultimate fights what happened with PvP rewards. So when 4.5 drops, make UCOB inacessible forevermore (maybe UwU too, so that only the latest ultimate can be accessed). And keep this rotation going so at any one time there's only 2 Ultimate's accessible at any one time (at most, I'd prefer only one). I think that's likely to make people git gud. Since you have to be quick or else you'll miss out on the content. Because then if an ultimate inspires you, you gotta work pretty fast to be able to access it for yourself.

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Originally Posted by Paladinleeds

You know, I say let's do to these ultimate fights what happened with PvP rewards. So when 4.5 drops, make UCOB inacessible forevermore (maybe UwU too, so that only the latest ultimate can be accessed). And keep this rotation going so at any one time there's only 2 Ultimate's accessible at any one time (at most, I'd prefer only one). I think that's likely to make people git gud. Since you have to be quick or else you'll miss out on the content. Because then if an ultimate inspires you, you gotta work pretty fast to be able to access it for yourself.

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I really hope you're joking. I'm all for Ultimate being forever synced/ilvl synced, but inaccessible? No. My UCoB static fell apart when we were on Blackfire/Fellruin because of some drama with the leader. Why should the others be punished for them being a diva?

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Originally Posted by Paladinleeds

You know, I say let's do to these ultimate fights what happened with PvP rewards. So when 4.5 drops, make UCOB inacessible forevermore (maybe UwU too, so that only the latest ultimate can be accessed). And keep this rotation going so at any one time there's only 2 Ultimate's accessible at any one time (at most, I'd prefer only one). I think that's likely to make people git gud. Since you have to be quick or else you'll miss out on the content. Because then if an ultimate inspires you, you gotta work pretty fast to be able to access it for yourself.

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Yeah, no. That wouldn't inspire anyone but simply demoralize people who either couldn't get a group together fast enough or simply attempted it later. No mention, it's a complete waste of resources. A mount being forever lost is nothing to the sheer amount of wasted dollars essentially closing an entire fight. Even if Ultimate remains forever synced, people will still attempt it. And if they clear in 5.0, they deserve just as much fanfare for those clearing in 4.1 onward.

Used to be the terms hardcore and casual in terms of gamers only referred to the amount of time someone actually plays a game. It had no actual bearing on skill level. As such you had hardcore gamers that just sucked at the game and casual gamers that had a skill level higher than most hardcore players.

Would be nice to build a time machine and stab the people in the eye that started using it as an excuse not to improve as a player.

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Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda

Used to be the terms hardcore and casual in terms of gamers only referred to the amount of time someone actually plays a game. It had no actual bearing on skill level.

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uhh, what? when?

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Originally Posted by HyoMinPark

I really hope you're joking.

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Could be either way. It was meant as a bit of a joke (like how PvPers have complained about PvErs complaining about PvP rewards), but as far as the PvPers are concerned, there could be merit in my idea. I can't speak for them though, so I won't say whether or not they see merit in the idea.

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Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

Yeah, no. That wouldn't inspire anyone but simply demoralize people who either couldn't get a group together fast enough or simply attempted it later. No mention, it's a complete waste of resources.

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But what about those duties they've added for things like the valentine's event that can't be accessed ever again? Isn't there already precedent there for doing that? Now granted it's not on the scale of an ultimate fight but it has happened already in the game. And does this sort of limited reward time demoralise them in PvP, or is it something else that's reducing morale?