The Unofficial "Why is this still a thing" Thread

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Originally Posted by Alestorm

Also why does Rescue have a delay to it? Whenever I try and use it for the one person that loves to never move the delay ensures they still get hit by the ability I was trying to save them from.

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FFXIV is slow to response with everything, just you noticed it with that for some reason and not other things. It happens to all actions and movement though.

It is clear as day if you have someone else recording something from their view. If you remember how you are positioned at any given time, what they see will be off.

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Originally Posted by Vstarstruck

FFXIV is slow to response with everything, just you noticed it with that for some reason and not other things. It happens to all actions and movement though.

It is clear as day if you have someone else recording something from their view. If you remember how you are positioned at any given time, what they see will be off.

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I was very sad to discover this when trying to have a choco race in South Gridania with a friend. We fought over who won, decided to record it, and lo and behold, we were both presented different winners.

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Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi

It's a thing with all MMO's

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No it's not? I've played many MMOs and not one of them restricted either creating alts or using alts as storage, this is the only one that does it and I think the only reason they don't change it is because they fear they'd lose money from additional retainers.

why is rampart a crossclass when they could have just made foresight like rampart and shadow skin, now drk is stuck with rampart lame ass animation, give it back shadow skin
why is esuna a crossclass when they could have just lowered the level you learn leech
why is rescue recast 150s
why is arm length recast 60s but surecast 30s
why souleater only restore hp in grit
why is blood price locked behind grit
why did they lose dark dance
why dark passenger cost so much mp for so little damage

Why can't I do anything while mounted?

Dex, Mind and Intellect Materia.

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Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi

Because RMT. Also because it makes stripping an account possible by players who share the same account. Not that it doesn't stop people from doing either of these with some free-trial account, it just requires effort.

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In WoW you can mail alts freely. I've never been mailed by, or heard a case of being mailed by, an RMT seller once in 7 years there. Stripping an account is rare and their customer service usually revert the damage within a day or two. There's no excuse tbh.

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Originally Posted by Liam_Harper

Dex, Mind and Intellect Materia.
In WoW you can mail alts freely. I've never been mailed by, or heard a case of being mailed by, an RMT seller once in 7 years there. Stripping an account is rare and their customer service usually revert the damage within a day or two. There's no excuse tbh.

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and here that takes 3-6 months.. if you are lucky.. maybe 2 weeks is best i heard? and the reset takes place a few months back (So basically you are losing out of months work trying to get a restore here)

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Originally Posted by Nora_of_Mira

I was very sad to discover this when trying to have a choco race in South Gridania with a friend. We fought over who won, decided to record it, and lo and behold, we were both presented different winners.

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yup in alestorm's case, the person took damage before you can see it. One of 2 things happened:

Alestorm sees the person not moving (person on sever side is hit by aoe) > uses rescue > sees person take damage even though they are outside.
Alestorm sees the person not moving > uses rescue (person on sever side is hit by aoe while server did not process the rescue action yet> sees person take damage even though they are outside.

You can really see it with anything, dying while using LB, last second heals, last second dodging, GCD/ OGCD ability clipping, etc

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Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi

It's still a thing because it's the only thing healers offer to a group that otherwise may as well be a bunch of DPS. See PotD. SE took half of WMH's kit and gave it to all the healers to simplify things and that had the opposite effect of giving the impression that all role actions were optional (including Esuna), even though it makes them available at all levels the Role action slot is available at.

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Remember how you said people don't respond to you and I said it was from going off weird tangents making it hard to understand? This is a good example of that right here. Protect used to be gained naturally, Transient_Shadow is basically shown disagreement moving it to a cross action skill and poking at the idea, if the idea is to remove "button bloat" this is the first skill that should be removed completely. Protect has NOTHING to do with ... what.. you said here. It does not fit the situation at all, they only did that to shoe horn the cross job ability skills that was kept in the game just because 1.0 had it (like the stat system that was dropped in SB release) Now that we see role actions, attempting to keep thee system (my guess is they fear backlash from getting it rid of completely) well.. I have to say it is most likely a good time to examine the cross role system, giving jobs their own abilities and just drop the cross role class system completely. (healers being a DPS or PotD has NOTHING to do with this)

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Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi

I'd rather all three healers have had their own Esuna skill, and Protect being unique to WHM's skillset. Maybe AST could have got a version of Protect that was Dirunal/Nocturnal aspected, so Dirunal AST-protect acted like WHM's protect, but Nocturnal AST-protect acts like SCH's version, and SCH's version would be like the original cross-class version (eg without proshell.) Whoever has the more powerful version overwrites the weaker one.

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They can't make protect whm only otherwise that will just throw balance off and make whm too high in demand. it would be NICE as part as a lore/ tradition prospective, but a disaster game play wise. We also have some proof of this, It is clear as hell, esp with the release of SB, they have a ton of problems with balancing SCH and SMN. (when one is "op" in something, they change it, while harming the other more severely, in the case of SB, making SCH borderline unplayable) So with the problems they have with SCH and SMN in regards of trying to balance things, how in the heck do you expect them to balance the other 2 healers lacking protect? One will end up being too heavily favored in comparison to the other, it will be a nightmare balance wise.

The same robe model/skeleton that clips through your feet while you're walking and through your hands while standing still. I'm not a huge clipping nitpicker, but I don't think being naked sans a single item should cause issues. Not to mention it's STILL BEING REUSED.

The lack of minimum ilvl requirement in leveling dungeons

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Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi

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Protect is a useless ability. It grants defence and magic defence, sure, but it wastes a slot that is better suited for something else. If they changed Protect to function as a defensive CD (a la Protect in PvP) it would be much more useful. As it stands now they could just grant Protect to everyone for free in a dungeon and nothing will change.

You've mentioned how you've played since ARR yet you are asking for something that they changed in HW because of balance issues? Protect was always a cross class skill first off, so it was never truly unique to WHM. Secondly Proshell (the trait) was removed and implemented into the standard Protect because it caused unbalance with WHM having more protective power than SCH. If they had kept Protect the way it was in ARR then WHM would have been an automatic pick for any fight that had Magic damage since it would have been the only class to grant Magic Defence with its Protect (Proshell).

The best options we have are either make Protect a decent CD (like I mentioned above) or remove it. Fiddling with how it's current state, and trying to make it "better" will only make matters worse. Buffs that last a prolonged amount if time are also lazy gameplay features. You just make sure everyone has your buff, otherwise they require no thought or strategy to use.