Another "Maiming" class?

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Originally Posted by Jandor

Dragoon and Ninja (and every other job) can already dress like a total weirdo though.

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With glamour, by choice.
But until you reach higher levels you're limited to job and type specific gear.
Iron works and Shire gear for example.

dancer would likely share gear with scouting class

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Originally Posted by Luin

I don't trust 75% of players to not equip monk gear when tanking

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Axing the suffixes does not remove armor classes; it just means you don't see "of fending" at the end of the name of every plate set...

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Originally Posted by Jandor

I like them, just personal preference though.

Preference is why I said BRD/MCH into NIN rather than NIN into BRD/MCH as well, I think Scouting sounds better than Aiming.

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I like them so long as there isn't going to be a non-tank ever permitted to wear full plate or whatever the heaviest armor type is in the collection.

And yeah, I've wanted that ever since Scouting came out. Sounds fully applicable to Archers while also just sounding outright... better.

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Originally Posted by Shurrikhan

Axing the suffixes does not remove armor classes; it just means you don't see "of fending" at the end of the name of every plate set...

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So how do you tell them apart?

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

So how do you tell them apart?

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One's visually much more armored than the rest and has far higher defense.
One would seem to provide more freedom of movement and does NOT have the stats used by the ranged classes.
One bathrobe is lighter colored or more flowery in design and has Mind instead of Det.
I.e., the same way you tell them apart in any other MMO.

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Originally Posted by Shurrikhan

I like them so long as there isn't going to be a non-tank ever permitted to wear full plate or whatever the heaviest armor type is in the collection.

And yeah, I've wanted that ever since Scouting came out. Sounds fully applicable to Archers while also just sounding outright... better.

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Nah, I'd still have them restricted by role. Tank, Healer, Caster, etc.

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Originally Posted by Shurrikhan

One's visually much more armored than the rest and has far higher defense.
One would seem to provide more freedom of movement and does NOT have the stats used by the ranged classes.
One bathrobe is lighter colored or more flowery in design and has Mind instead of Det.
I.e., the same way you tell them apart in any other MMO.

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How do you tell them apart in the menu, if they all have the same name?

Currently we have:
Ironworks armour of fending
Ironworks armour of maiming
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Originally Posted by Dzian

Right side nin brd mch usually share aiming accessories.

To be honest though I've always wished there was more individual gear. And less generic shared gear....

Gives warriors gear that's warrior themed and dark gear that's dark themed. Rather than just one set that's not really themed for any of them.

Same with everything else. Even striking now. The 320 genta striking set looks great for Sam but totally doesn't fit a monk thematically.

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I think that's what they are doing with the Eureka gear, as each set can only be worn by that particular class. All those sets are the upgraded versions of the 290 stuff you get when you complete the level 70 class quest. As of now the gear is capped at 350 (355 for the weapon). You can keep improving it though as they release more Eureka chapters.

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

How do you tell them apart in the menu, if they all have the same name?

Currently we have:
Ironworks armour of fending
Ironworks armour of maiming
Ext.

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I guess you might have to come up with more than a single word for armor?
...Like, again, most MMOs?

It's really not much a brainscratcher. If you have suffixes, you can skip common sense means of differentiation. Without them, you're limited to common sense means of differentiation. ...That still leaves all within the domain of common sense.

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Originally Posted by Shurrikhan

I guess you might have to come up with more than a single word for armor?
...Like, again, most MMOs?

It's really not much a brainscratcher. If you have suffixes, you can skip common sense means of differentiation. Without them, you're limited to common sense means of differentiation. ...That still leaves all within the domain of common sense.

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So... why are we getting rid of suffixes again?
For cosmetics?