Why dont you use RAID FINDER?

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Originally Posted by Jijifli

Because if I'm gonna run the fight, I'd like to at least know the guy who can't be bothered can't keep queuing into my party.

You join my farm party and can't do the fight? I can remove and replace you. Do it in Raid Finder? We have to vote and I get a 4 hour lockout.

Also since people are mentioning it... Does the punishment for double jobs happen in Raid Finder? I know it's specifically coded to not happen if you queue without a full party into duty finder.

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Thank you for your constructive criticism.

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Originally Posted by Vaer

Preferred comps usually end up meta. (1 Tank Skip Soar, Tank LB3 2nd tiger) That's just how it goes. Do you technically need it? Nah. But if it increases the success rate why wouldn't you use it? Most of the farms I see are LB3 2nd tiger/no stack classes just like most of the Zurvan EX farms I saw when he was current were 1 tank only. Doesn't mean you can't kill it with a different comp (my first clear was no tank LB3 for Byakko before people even knew you could cheese it), that's not the point but if a large percentage of the population decides x strat is easiest, they will follow that one and if RF indirectly makes that strat harder the chance of them using RF goes down.

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Thank you :)

The reason that Raid Finder fails is actually pretty strait forward. No one really does EX fights because the fight is fun, they do it because they want the items from the raid in order to complete an iLvL check objective and it's been this way since as long as I remember playing MMOs. That means that people want to know and trust who they are working with. I'm going to be frank: If Yoshida said tomorrow that all EX rewards could be earned by other means now as well as just doing the fight, such as grinding out some currency via duty finder, getting totem items from normal mode one at a time, etc, no one would raid.

Yet for some reason they keep making raids. I suppose it's to keep the 1-5% appeased and to give justification to the alchemy, materia, and food trade.

What I find funny is that basically no one wants to run long arduous dungeons if they don't have to, but they make it so that we still have to run the old content to get more tokens to upgrade gear on other jobs in order to make us fill out the raid rosters for the 24 man dungeons. So basically, we're being forced into doing a raid we don't want to actually do, because the developers made the games story require certain dungeons to be completed or the dungeon is needed to build the numbers up needed to clear newer content, even if the dungeon is from last patch and has been out for months.

Now that I wrote that out it actually sounds kind of like some evil scheme out of the Austin Powers movies.

Because players are generaly cheesing things these days.

Zurvan the raid finder was slow because most groups took1 tank and 5 dps to try and cheese soar.
byakko ex though I haven't done it yet is basically cheesed using tank lb3.

for Sophia susano and Lakshmi the raid finder was always a pretty quick queue and in my experience players used it quite frequently especially if they only wanted to do a quick run or 2. joining farms for a single run is generally moaned at.

and as far as learning / clearing goes the options are broken. you can't really join a raid finder group for byakko to "clear it" because players who have never entered the fight before are using the duty completion option instead of practice.

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Originally Posted by Vaer

You might end up with stacked jobs that kills/makes it harder to do the Tank LB3 strat which is a widely accepted strat right now on NA/EU for Byakko.

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they need to scrap that honestly. Especially when the devs proclaim you should be able to play whatever job you want. so with that said it really shouldn't matter if 2+ people in your party wantto play the same job.

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Originally Posted by Dzian

they need to scrap that honestly. Especially when the devs proclaim you should be able to play whatever job you want. so with that said it really shouldn't matter if 2+ people in your party wantto play the same job.

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Scrap the use of Tank LB in like the... 3rd or 4th content that it's relevent? Or scrap the LB guage slowing down when you have copies?

The first would anger a lot of tanks because it'd be a message square hates tank LB, the other can cause groups to dupe jobs for more dps and bring even less variety in party play.

The question should be
"why dont you play tank/healer class".

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Originally Posted by Jib

But that is the thing.. if the tool is there why dont you use it really? for me the unpredictability of getting bad players is the same, or is it not?

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why use a tool when another tool that is avalable does it better,

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Originally Posted by Nedkel

The question should be
"why dont you play tank/healer class".

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If you're replying to the first post, the 3rd to last line says they queued as a healer.

Can we all just breath easy and enjoy the fact this fight isn't Titan EX back in it's hayday all over again? Four hours of dying to RNG, or some poor person had an ISP issue and got a momentary lag spike. I'd still greatly prefer it if they would let the weapons drop strait up in the EX version and have a token item get rewarded for completing normal mode. That way if someone shows up late to the "boss rush" club because they had the misfortune of returning mid patch cycle they don't get left in the dust.

To be honest i forgotten it even existed
The only time i used it was on Sophia and A9S, where i needed like 3h+ queue