Who do you want for omega scapes 3 and 4?

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Originally Posted by DamianFatale

- Shadow Lord

A tribute to the previous mmo would be a heartfelt inclusion. I also want to see more respresentation of the two mmo Final Fantasy games, and XIV is one of the best places to have a tribute to it in some form.

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While not related to Omega, I personally hope this is our 5.0 24 person raid series, kind of like how the current one is an FFT themed raid. And as far as we know Iroha is still in Erozea so that gives them a perfect starting point to work with and everything. but I won't derail this thread any more then that. just wanted to politely toss in my two gil on the idea FFXI themed raids.

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Originally Posted by Reynhart

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I agree. The NM raids were OK at best and Kefka was a bit boring. Exdeath was kinda the same but at least it had 2 phases. However, savage is on a different level. I think they placed the fanservice right, using it as a bait to lure new players into challenging the hardest content. Even though we knew beforehand that God Kefka was going to be Savage only (and I think only a couple of players complained about it), that's a good motivation for some to go and tackle the raid down.

But that's only from a PvE perspective. From a story perspective, they both are the same.

While I could definitely see a FFVII based tier that culminates in Sephiroth, I personally would prefer a FFIV based one.

Who I would want to see.
- The Magus Sisters.
- The Four Fiends but with all of them together as one boss fight. Maybe they switch off as phases and sometimes two at a time. Maybe turns into Geryon as final phase.
- Dr. Lugae/Lugaborg
- Zemus/Zeromus

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Originally Posted by Reynhart

Just a tiny bit difference here...all of those are incorporated in XIV's lore. They have a real reason for being there. Omega is litterally "Look, we picked the characters from past FF and didn't make any effort to make them part of XIV".

Someone on this topic mentionned how we could have Hojo being a Garlean scientist. He could have been the one to create the Resonant, and maybe one of those resonant could be called Sephiroth and become mad from the echo's vision. That's how you can make fanservice. But just putting Sephiroth in Omega with no background whatsovever is lazy.
Another thing they could have done better is replace Regula by Kefka, and make him become hungry with power after facing the Warring Triad. It could have given us a special Tower of the Gods 24-man raid where each group would have faced one member of the triad.

Frankly, I felt that the Kefka fight was boring. No real phases, no transition, just hitting him from 100% to 0. It really felt like the dev team was saying "Well, if you want an engaging encouter, go beat savage, we don't have time to make this version engaging". But maybe it's just because it's obvious now that Savage will have a whole new phase, something we didn't know the first time we faced ExDeath.

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We already fought the guy that made the resonates, and having some new guy appear like "It was actually me who made them! Muahaha!" and some random dood showing up and he suddenly becomes Sephiroth would be no less lazy than "I'm a dimension hopping robot who's looking for the ultimate being so I can evolve!"

Some fanservice is better served as not being wholesale connected to the main story. Because you would have to make a lot of if not all the story about them to pull it off well. Sephiroth, Ultimicia, and Kefka being good examples considering just how important and strong they are in the FF universe.

I'd like to pick a fight with Omega proper. I'll pass on dealing with an Oedepus Complex sporting a 20 foot compensation devi-er, katana.

I had this idea since Omega is being introduced to FFXV, the final tier of Omega will have Ardyn as the stage 3 boss before going on to face Omega in stage 4. Since Ardyn doesn't have a final transformation (a first for the series? not sure..) he would be perfectly suited to a fight right before Omega itself.

Not my preference though.

On a side note, I think the final transformations of stage 4 bosses should be available to normal mode players. Those playing savage still get superior gear and exclusive weapons and a mount.

Sin and Anima would be pretty awesome also

I would love to the final tier to be sephirot , ultimecia, kuja and omega for final boss (i believe she said that she studies us to fight us then evolve).
And since we are eliminating the other "teams" i believe this ultimate team would be awesome.

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Originally Posted by Bellsong

We already fought the guy that made the resonates

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Yes, I know, but if they plan to put Hojo into FFXIV, that's a wasted opportunity.
My hope for not seeing Sephiroth ever is because we already had an expy for it. A hammy villain, eager to follow some ethereal motherly influence and trying to destroy the whole planet using a meteor ? Hello Nael !

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Originally Posted by Bellsong

Some fanservice is better served as not being wholesale connected to the main story.

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You don't need to connect it with the main story, but you have to give it some backstory, to make them stand on their own. Xande was not some dude randomly picked up from FF III, he was the Allagan Emperor, a character that we already knew existed, since you obviously need an emperor to be an empire. Crystal Tower was not some random tower, it was the beacon used to channel Bahamut's energy from Dalamud, etc...

In FXIV, who is Kefka ? He's...a clown. Do we really want to see past villains that we like reduced to some random encounter ?

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Originally Posted by Reynhart

Frankly, I felt that the Kefka fight was boring. No real phases, no transition, just hitting him from 100% to 0. It really felt like the dev team was saying "Well, if you want an engaging encouter, go beat savage, we don't have time to make this version engaging". But maybe it's just because it's obvious now that Savage will have a whole new phase, something we didn't know the first time we faced ExDeath.

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^^I agree with this 100%. I think I was more hyped at the thought of seeing and doing an updated 3D version of one of the best fights in FF history. As the music started up, I could feel my excitement arise...only to actually do the fight on normal and it was a cakewalk. Sure it was cool too look at but it was just boring. And the fact that they don't use any voiceovers for these raids is frustrating.

With that said, I don't do savage mode because I don't have the time to arrange a group or find a dedicated static or the patience to actually learn the mechanics. Some of the harder mechanics in this game (imo) are ridiculous sometimes to the point where it isn't really fun for me. I wish they'd just make the endgame fights something like Shinryu normal which I thought was fun with the right amount of difficulty for a normal mode. It's times like this I wish SE would just get rid of Savage and make normal savage-like with not as many punishing mechanics and just use Ultimate mode for the sadists out there.

But back to the topic...I've really been wishing for a Chrono Trigger/Cross boss set with Lavos, Masa & Mune, FATE and Dragon God.