An example of why the ARR Hunts need an adjustment

How is it worse than XI's claim system where after 1st hit nobody outside your party could hit hunt at all, which resulted in claiming bots rampaging in all areas.
Honestly, if you are serious about hunts, you should get close to spawning parties or even become part of them, and you'll have all info you need. So far it works fine for me:

https://i.imgur.com/EmlSBr9.png

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Originally Posted by Velthice

You aren't owed to know when a hunt mob dies, that's not a guaranteed right you have. There's no unfairness here, it's just a dedicated group of players putting in the work and being successful.

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The problem I have with this statement is that these same players are using timers that they got from other people marking ToD and not giving the same courtesy back it takes 1 second to mark a hunt as dead its not like its a long process.

Asking people to have common courtesy is apparently too much these days

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Originally Posted by SuperZay

How is it worse than XI's claim system where after 1st hit nobody outside your party could hit hunt at all, which resulted in claiming bots rampaging in all areas.
Honestly, if you are serious about hunts, you should get close to spawning parties or even become part of them, and you'll have all info you need. So far it works fine for me:

https://i.imgur.com/EmlSBr9.png

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geez you're really not getting what the OP is saying.

That on his server the people are purposefully not tracking (or incorrectly tracking) the S ranks, and not relaying them, so it makes it almost impossible for others who aren't in that elusive club to know what the spawn window is currently at.

Of course joining a spawn party would help...if they could find out what the spawn window was, or if they could find out how to join the existing spawners. Other servers are better about cooperating so more people can participate in spawning.

Your screenshot just shows that on your server (which it looks like you're on Odin and he's on Behemoth), you're probably all better at actually tracking correctly and reporting.

Imagine if tomorrow someone decided to go on your tracker (I'm assuming Ariyala/Odin) and decided to mark every single S rank as being dead. It'd be a similar experience to if no one was reporting when an S rank died at all because the window would always be inaccurate.

To the OP:
for the time being focus on the few S ranks that are not spawned by players.
example: Croakadile is spawned based on when the full moon comes. Get an android app called Eorzea clock (get an emulator if you don't have android) so you can see the moon phase.
example2: there's another one that's based on when the weather rains twice in a row. There is a website out there for that as well.

So at least for those it's based on the server, not on people, so if you show up whenever that happens, even if you can't know the window, at least you have a greater chance of seeing them.

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Originally Posted by BillyKaplan

SB hunts, from my experience, get few people to kill them even during active times just because they're a pain in the tail feathers. That said, in SB you're supposed to see level 70s running around in an area, so even if you're not in a linkshell or what not, a good /shout should get you some biters. You can end up in an ARR zone and /shout all you want, not a single level 70'll come and kill that A rank sitting on top of your quest marker just because they've nothing to do in that area. In comparison, the chances of you getting enough level 50+ players to help get rid of the annoyance should suffice.

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Heck, in my experience you can often /shout all you want about ARR and even HW rank A spawns, and nobody will show up to help. If you are lucky 2-3 other people may show up.

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Originally Posted by Squintina

geez you're really not getting what the OP is saying.

That on his server the people are purposefully not tracking (or incorrectly tracking) the S ranks, and not relaying them, so it makes it almost impossible for others who aren't in that elusive club to know what the spawn window is currently at.

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I'm getting it. As I explained, it's not in our interests to give time of death just to see people spawn it without us next time. And they will spawn it without waiting because they care only about themselves, so why we shouldn't do the same? And we started doing it too now. A spawn war.
Missing S ranks... that's not how to get a tiger.

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Originally Posted by SuperZay

I'm getting it. As I explained, it's not in our interests to give time of death just to see people spawn it without us next time. And they will spawn it without waiting because they care only about themselves, so why we shouldn't do the same? And we started doing it too now. A spawn war.
Missing S ranks... that's not how to get a tiger.

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you should make a hunt ls with a membership fee of 100k per day or sth and link all s ranks there for lazy people :P

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Originally Posted by Squintina

Imagine if tomorrow someone decided to go on your tracker (I'm assuming Ariyala/Odin) and decided to mark every single S rank as being dead. It'd be a similar experience to if no one was reporting when an S rank died at all because the window would always be inaccurate.

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That does happen on the Ariyala tracker for Odin. One 3 person FC is accused of doing it.

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Originally Posted by SuperZay

nobody ever helps to spawn (most of the time only us fishing, gathering, killing 150 mobs, doing 1 hour of boring fates etc...)

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Originally Posted by SuperZay

I'm getting it. As I explained, it's not in our interests to give time of death just to see people spawn it without us next time. And they will spawn it without waiting because they care only about themselves, so why we shouldn't do the same? And we started doing it too now. A spawn war.
Missing S ranks... that's not how to get a tiger.

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You don't get to complain about having to always spawn hunts yourself and people always leeching, and then simultaneously complain about the inconvenience when other people spawn hunts. Huge contradiction dude. You have to either do the spawning work yourself or share information and have others do it too. Can't have it both ways. As someone on the same server I don't care either way as long as whatever goes in the trackers is accurate information and not false times of death.

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Originally Posted by SuperZay

It's extremelly time consuming. If it were as easy as you say, everyone would spawn them. S ranks don't pop when you walk just once or do one jump or mine one item, often you spent in that zone hours and hours before pop. Hours which other players use to have fun and come only to a ready link (and ready to hate), not realising what efforts and time are hidden behind that tiny relink.

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Oh please. You poor thing. Nandi is reeeaaaaaaaaaaaaally hard to spawn. How do you have time to function outside the game? And Laideronnette? Oh jeez! How do YOU do it?! The problem is that I have spawned them and I do hunt As. I know the time commitment required and I think you're full of it. Outside of the harder ones (and there are a few -- as I mentioned before), they don't require a huge amount of work to spawn. That what time they do take is cut significantly by knowing when they were last killed.

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Originally Posted by Squintina

That on his server the people are purposefully not tracking (or incorrectly tracking) the S ranks, and not relaying them, so it makes it almost impossible for others who aren't in that elusive club to know what the spawn window is currently at.

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He get's what you're saying. He just wants to be an asshole and is trying to justify it.

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Originally Posted by NovaLevossida

Absolutely right. Far better for it to be that than a hunt that dies in 5 seconds.

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Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

I mean, let's be honest here. What level 50 player is doing hunts? Even if they join a hunt party, the higher level players will squash it in seconds.

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Better would be a ilevel-synch down to ilevel 70 to the players instead of level up the hunts to level 70

I agree with the OP's sentiment that it's incredibly frustrating to go out looking for a hunt only to find it living up to it's billing on Ariyala as "missing" because it had been killed and unmarked. That being said, it's entirely possible for hunts to be killed by people who simply don't know what the deal is (A ranks, at the very least). Most anyone familiar with S rank spawning, in my experience, knows to call them out and mark them, and that's experience with hunting on two vastly different servers (in terms of how grouping and relaying is handled).