Heavy Thrust on DRG job gauge

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About your comment regarding AOE situations--mobs should not be living past 30 seconds. If they are, the DPS is extremely low. If you cannot keep up with a buff on your buff bar because you're only half-watching it, how do you expect to keep up with it on a gauge you will also only be half-watching?

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If you really work on gauge placement. You can put it right next, on, above, or below your character. Below is a basketball game but the same concept is applied. The UI being character centric versus spread out on 2-5 corners of your screen.

Everything cost a mili second in processing and execution. From the time you see/know, which is longer if your eyes have to drift, to the time you get in position, to the time you execute the skill.

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Originally Posted by Kabooa

There is a distinct difference between set rotation upkeep and priority rotation upkeep. You need the quick at-a-glance look when it comes to timers such as Astral Fire, Hot Shot, or Straight shot, where as Heavy Thrust is always applied first, which is extrapolated to 'Always before the CT combo".

There is no room for another 5 combo in Dragoon's timers, so it's not "Can I do this combo before heavy thrusting again?"

It's "Just did Full Thrust, now it's Heavy Thrust into Chaos Thrust again."

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While I know what you're trying to suggest, but you forget buffs and their durations were still an option before the UI.
You can still look at your buff bar w/o the UI, to accomplish this.

It's no different.

And again every single person who tries to counter this, keeps forgetting that "rotation" isnt the actual rotation in every scenario. It acts just like other short term CDs in AoE.

Personally I'd like Heavy Thrust to get a rework so that it does what we'd "like" but was "easier" to use.

I'd also like to have it on the FT combo (since that one doesn't have any effect, and the selfbuff could be on any other skill than HT). It would go in the direction of "more straightforward - less button bloat" thing.

I mean, they did make potency adjustments for both failed positionnals and missed HT in order to reduce the skill gap. Here it would help for both : CT starting on the back, finishing on the side, where FT combo would start, and ending on the back.

It is not needed, but it would be kinda neat and elegant in a sense because of the symmetry

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Originally Posted by Dualgunner

I'll admit: if it were up to me, I'd have every self buff represented some way on the job gauge. Hell, at the same time I'd have something to verify that ones own debuffs are up on the boss so that in the case of a 24 man boss my own debuffs don't get lost in the sea. At the same time, I'd also have them still represented on the buff bar, and completely optional elements for the people who prefer them on the buff bar.

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I think this line here is what will make people stop fighting over this issue of buffs. Some people like peripherals, some people like buff bars. Like with Hot Shot now, it appears on both the gauge and the buff bar. I can't remove it from the buff bar, but I can't remove it from the gauge either. Ideally, all UI elements have options. New DRG having a hard time looking at buff icons? Use gauge. Long time DRG main that knows HT is baked into your rotation, just have it on buff bar.

In my limited play as a MCH, actually having both heat and hot shot on the same gauge element was more distracting. Felt like there was too much going on in one job gauge. This is compared to something like NIN where Huton and Ninki get their own separate bars. I can space them out well nice enough to make it less cluttered to read.

The hotshot don't matter much on my mch since if rotations are going well you'll get it up at the right moment its over, the only time it comes in handy to me is when I messed up a certain mechanic and dropped my rotation then I'll look at my hot shot/bar gauge

While I'd like to see Heavy Thrust placed on the display, I think they need to change how it works instead of being that button you press every 2 combos. Maybe heavy thrust needs to be a stackable. Every successful combo yields a stack that goes up to three, similar to Greased Lightning where damage dealt goes up 5% per successful combo, so you'd get a 5% buff but it will take a bit to get there and maintain.

I'll be frank I won't be surprised if they remove piercing down debuff and make disembowel grant heavy strike buff, while completely gutting heavy strike from the game or they merge it with impulse drive who knows

Yeah, Since I got Dragoon to 70, I have been hoping they'd just merge Heavy Thrust and Impulse Drive. That and making Mirage Dive replace Jump/Spineshatter Dive when it's up.

How can you not count 11 gcds