Radical thought...remove the off-tank?

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Originally Posted by Xerek

That's why you have healers who can rez and burst heal. MT outright dying should bring a panicked flurry of activity to recover, much as it does in current 4-man content.

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With no off-tank, who catch the adds, the 2 healers have to tank the adds themself and will not have the time to heal the tank

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Originally Posted by Sylvina

many people build for off tank and only off tank and thats their fun.

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You shouldn't ever do that though.

Ideally in any difficult fight you should be sharing the main tank role to help maximize raid dps and get the most out of your defensive cooldowns.

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Originally Posted by RiyahArp

Considering this would be for roulettes and easier content, why not? It worked for raids. Just leave it for hard content. This wouldn't solve the main problem though, leveling roulette.

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That wouldn't even work there are too many fights in the roulette that are dependent on 2 tanks

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Originally Posted by Malzian

Um... What? Does not compute. Right now PLD is the preferred tank for raiding due to its mitigation and utility. WAR is fine and can be used for raiding, but I don't know a single raid group that would say this. During HW, yes, but not in SB.

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Every raid group I asked in SB has said WAR is the preffered MT now due to Inner beast effectively giving it more mitigation uptime than PLD.

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Originally Posted by Rita1989

You shouldn't ever do that though.

Ideally in any difficult fight you should be sharing the main tank role to help maximize raid dps and get the most out of your defensive cooldowns.

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Only off tank builds are the ones with the most dps.

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Originally Posted by Sylvina

Only off tank builds are the ones with the most dps.

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Unless your running unending coil all tanks should be gearing/melding to maximize dps nothing else hits hard enough to warrant any differently.

Personally, I would prefer to see more content be built to make use of the off-tank instead of potentially only having one tank.

There are so many ways to do this like more add waves, multiple bosses at a time, mechanics that force tank swaps, etc.

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Originally Posted by Rita1989

Unless your running unending coil all tanks should be gearing/melding to maximize dps nothing else hits hard enough to warrant any differently.

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The time I was oneshotted through my cooldowns in O1s by twinbolt becuase I wasn't in tank stance when it came up says otherwise. Unless you already have an item level higher than whats required for the content, stuff hits plenty hard.

My second experience off tanking, main tank died so I put up grit and fought for aggro until they were up. Yes, the party could have recovered but depending on the phase, a dps or two could die increasing the number of weakened players. It's a problem in raids because no one knows who is second in line and both hesitate.

There are also mechs that attack the top two threat targets and they are meant to be taken by the tanks. As a dps I've taken a few tank busters and didn't even have a chance x(

Respect the OT.

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Originally Posted by Sylvina

Every raid group I asked in SB has said WAR is the preffered MT now due to Inner beast effectively giving it more mitigation uptime than PLD.

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Inner Beast requires you to be in tank stance, which if the group knows what they're doing, you won't be in tank stance. Pld is the preferred off tank though.

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Originally Posted by Sylvina

Only off tank builds are the ones with the most dps.

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Again, if your group knows what they're doing, neither tank will be in tank stance (except for certain spots in unending coil). Whoever does more damage comes down to which tank it is, what instance you're in, and the skill of each tank.

Tank swap mechanics are fun. Don't take them away!