I miss the old PvP.

Personally, I think 9 buttons as a standard is too restricting. Some jobs need more than that, and some don't. I don't think it'd be so bad to have a little variation between the jobs in that regard.

And cc skills really are essential for melees. Like, NIN shouldn't be the only one with them. That doesn't mean take away what NIN has, but bring MNK and DRG up to par with NIN's cc abilities. At LEAST give them back their stuns.

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Originally Posted by NessaWyvern

I have literally stopped playing FF14 simply because of the pvp change. It killed the whole game for me, now I only log in to keep my chocobo-themed house. Same with my pvp FC. We have all moved on to other things. When I played Astro with old pvp, I felt like all my weaving of abilities was like a playing a beautiful piece of music. Now I feel like I am loudly bashing 3-4 keys over and over.
I got into the top 10 in the feast for a while back in old pvp, until I ran into speed hackers and ragequit ranked :P I would rather have 10 times more speed hackers and old pvp, than no speed hackers and the new pvp.

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Or Taking Away the enemy node By sneaking and LB'ing the Guarding Healer before you killed theyr also guarding Dragoon while the Rest of theyr Team is buisy fighting the team with the lowest points :D

Or assassinating someone on his Mount while he desperatly tries to run away. God i Miss those Times... i could cry

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Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI

Personally, I think 9 buttons as a standard is too restricting. Some jobs need more than that, and some don't. I don't think it'd be so bad to have a little variation between the jobs in that regard.

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While i highly agree i doubt we will see more abilities making comeback as SE tries to balance pvp around 4v4 Feast and to make that work most jobs needs to be carbon copies of each other, PLD stun is good example as it got nerfed down to 2s so it matches the other two tanks. This is the reason why i have always disliked Arenas in MMO's as it always ruins the fun when things gets balanced around that, i would rather have unbalanced jobs with interesting skill synergy than army of clones tbh.

As it stands, there's quite a world of difference between the DPS jobs (as there should be), but in all the wrong ways.

I dunno, I just feel like whoever's handling PvP this time around - if different - needs to hand it back to the team that did it before. They weren't perfect, but they were a hell of a lot better.

I also miss the pre-change pvp.
I liked the idea of the pvp gear and the skills the way they were.
I might be the only one .

Sigh.....

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Originally Posted by Nightroad

I also miss the pre-change pvp.
I liked the idea of the pvp gear and the skills the way they were.
I might be the only one .

Sigh.....

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You're not the only one. I miss how rank worked too to buff the skills.

Secretly, I'm really hoping SE is seeing this, and gives PvP the "4.0 BRD" treatment.

Namely, rolling back controversial and poorly received changes and restoring what was good, while making things even better.

Keep consolidated skills, restore full kits (adjusted for PvP), restore rank progression-based PvP skill upgrades. Keep the gear/stat removal (since level 30s can start PvPing, and they even want level 1s to have access), restore the balanced CCs on all jobs and cooldowns/DRs of 3.5 PvP, and by then I hope we have map rotation.

Do that, and PvP can become great again.

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Keep consolidated skills

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Just so I am interpreting you correctly you mean the 1 button for a skill chain correct? Fast blade, savage blade, rage of halone for example or the Heavy Shot, Slug Shot, Clean Shot for MCH.

If so I agree with everything you said.

I agree with what everyone has said, I preferred the 3.X PvP systems to the 4.X ones, particularly due to a lot of tactical/support abilities being dropped in favour of more simplistic generic DPS abilities when Stormblood hot. I’d love if they took a look at the PvP system as a whole

This change is too huge, and SE has spent too much resources on it to even make them consider rolling it back. It is not going to happen.

Perhaps in the next mmo FF they'll get it right?

They did some good changes though. Like making PvP a lot more accessible. I have no idea why they hid it behind endgame for so long (lvl 30 WD what happened?). And they think the chat restrictions helped bring people in? lol no sorry, I don't want to sound rude, but even I can see that is not even a small part of it (a tiny, tiny one perhaps).