Not enough tanks queueing for Level 50/60 Dungeons and Roulette

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Originally Posted by TheAngelneer

We already have Cracked Clusters for Leveling Roulette AiN, so how about a source of crafting/gathering grade V or VI materia in the 50/60 roulette?

That would make me tank 50/60 more often.

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That is a solid idea. It is a steady source of income even for non-crafter tanks and a huge gil-saver for the crafters.

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Originally Posted by Big_Panda

Why do tank players have an obligation to queue for roulette they do not care for? The happiness of other players is not part of my equation when I factor how I want to spend my play time.

I do my best when I am in the dungeon, but I am not about to jump into PF just because someone was shouting for a missing tank.

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I never said they did have an obligation to do so. I merely mentioned it as a selfless means to help out the community considering you can end a 20+ minute queue for 1-3 other players or replace a lost tank in an instant. I understand such a player would exist in the extreme minority. That's why I said I'm just tossing it out there. I wonder how many you got as you leveled any of your DPS and/or healer classes.

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Originally Posted by Phileas

Yes it does. There are multiple things i can do with my time in ffxiv and 50 60 roullette gives me no reason to do it. If i want to do community service id rather go in pf and help groups do content because at least there is some interaction unlike roullette.

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So based off of what you are saying here, if there were more interactions in roulettes, you might be more willing to queue up for them?

Whether this is true or not from your standpoint, it brings up an interesting point when I think about how many players wish there were more interactions between players in instances as they tend to be more fun and less robotic. Unfortunately, mentalities such as needing some kind of incentive to even queue up in the first place makes it a self-fulfilling prophecy. When you have no reason to be there other than a clear and a reward and the majority of the community also feels the same way, any kind of movement towards player interaction remains stagnant. I suppose it's also a big reason why a 12-15 minute run opposed to a 16-20 minute run is the difference between good and bad.

I suppose it doesn't matter though, because even though those players are part of the community as a whole, you still likely won't ever see them again, am I right? Again, I'm not saying tanks are obligated to this, but the ones that do are pretty freakin awesome.

50/60 Roulettes is Jump Potion No Man's Land, Fresh 50's Playground and has those picked up a 60's job again but are oblivious to the changes, so they fumble through it.

If I should endure this run as a tank, this Roulette better cough up significanly improved rewards for me.

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Originally Posted by Anarnee

I really don't think a 15 min wait is worth complaining about. I guess as a DPS main I'm use to 30+ min waits sooooo....

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It wasn't 15 min as a DPS, it was longer than 15 min as a Healer. Healers are pretty scarce in queues too so for a Healer to wait that long is an obvious sign that Tanks aren't queueing nearly enough for that dungeon/roulette. Furthermore it has been this way for 50/60 Roulette for quite awhile. That means unless Square Enix offers Tanks incentive to queue for it it will remain this way for that roulette and those dungeons, probably forever.

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Originally Posted by TheAngelneer

We already have Cracked Clusters for Leveling Roulette AiN, so how about a source of crafting/gathering grade V or VI materia in the 50/60 roulette?

That would make me tank 50/60 more often.

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Now this something, not only i could get those myself it would also make them(hopefully)cheaper in market as well. It could be also "universal" cluster that can be used on both battle or land/hand materia.

Cracked Crystals, right? Where do you guys even get those now?

You know another issue with 50/60? My level 70 healers can solo a level 50 dungeon. I'm aware other jobs can, too. If I need to get one done for Wondrous Tails, it's usually just as easy to solo it. That's another huge hit towards incentive to run it.

Why not just have the adventurer in need bonus include a couple of metallic dyes, makes it much easier than relying on retainers' RNG, paying out the ass on MB, or buying from the cash shop

Give me some pure white and jet black dyes as the AiN bonus and I will rerun this roulette multiple times per day as a tank for the rest of my FF career. Soot black and Snow White dyes just don't cut it most of the time.

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Originally Posted by Gemina

I never said they did have an obligation to do so. I merely mentioned it as a selfless means to help out the community considering you can end a 20+ minute queue for 1-3 other players or replace a lost tank in an instant. I understand such a player would exist in the extreme minority. That's why I said I'm just tossing it out there. I wonder how many you got as you leveled any of your DPS and/or healer classes.

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A better solution is for the devs to make 50/60 appealing. Honestly, I dislike them more due to how many jobs suffer now when synced down in level. Astro, Dark Knight, Dragoon and Scholar are awful at 50, for instance. Now if I could farm craft/gather clusters, I wouldn't mind, but otherwise I don't want to touch 50/60 more than once a day.