O5-12 predictions

New speculation(im bored):

Omega calls us back to fight in the "Gammascape". We find *drumroll* Final Fantasy 4 tier!

First boss: Dark Elf - anyone wearing metal armor is paralyzed for the entire fight unless your party has a bard that is sufficiently spoony.
Second boss: The Four Fiends - start with one(lets say Rubicante so he can get his fair fight as you are starting out at full strength), and the next one swaps in as soon as you do enough damage to the one in front of you... or alternately, fight two at a time(probly fire + air, earth + water for the combos) or even fight all four at once for maximum chaos
Third boss: Giant of Babil - this would be more of a "mini-dungeon" raid as you would have to enter the giant and fight your way to the core and its defense system
Final boss: Zemus/Zeromus - same setup as exdeath/neo
I suppose you could sub in Golbez for the elf if the magnetic field/spoony bard requirement is too harsh(he could replace the giant also, but why would you want to do that?) and then just change the fight order

Golbez would be too similar in both appearance and skills as Exdeath. Golbez, like Exdeath, is a big blue knight that casts tier 3 elemental magic and Meteor also.

Instead, I wager that an FF4 tier could be:

1.0: Ogopogo
2.0 Plague Horror
3.0 Four Fiends (similar to the 4 mechs of Brute Justice, from Alexander)
4.0 Zemus/Zeromus.

For the Zemus fight, I would want it such that you NEED to caster/ranged LB3 a bunch of "Zeromus' Malice/Zeromus Mind" adds when he's at 5% or they wipe the raid. For Savage, this holds true around 70%. This would mimic the fact that Zeromus isn't born until Zemus is defeated with Meteor during his encounter in FF4. The Savage version could also grant you a "Crystal" that you use with Duty Action to allow you to damage him (or maybe to negate the damage from Big Bang).

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Originally Posted by Jonnycbad

you NEED to caster/ranged LB3 a bunch of "Zeromus' Malice/Zeromus Mind" adds when he's at 5% or they wipe the raid.

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The problem there being, that the fights must accommodate all team comps (assuming you still stick to 2-2-4). Maybe just make it so that you need to AoE them down in general (and make that really tough), and having an AoE LB just makes it a whole lot easier?

On random silly speculation, some FF2 could be fun too, especially if you put the setting in Pandaemonium (much like O1-4 was in the Rift Castle almost exclusively).

O5: Zombie Borghen! (Would be Tiamat, but she's taken atm)
O6: Beelzebub
O7: Astaroth
O8: Emperor/Light Emperor (DoS remake for the latter)


The last fight I can see him swapping between his light and dark sides and changing his tactics accordingly. Dark Emperor would focus on status ailments and black magic such as Flare and Blaze, while Light Emperor would be more focused on self-support (self-buffs/healing) while casting Holy, Banish, and similar light spells. Both sides would have their supermove as "Starfall," which would be nice and fitting. Extra points if there's an "Ultima Tome" item that pops up to be used temporarily to weaken/block certain mechanics, but using it gives you a long-duration debuff that will kill you if you use it again while you have the debuff (reference to how it was such a powerful tome). This would force the entire party to pay attention and someone to grab it if they don't have the debuff.

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Originally Posted by Jonnycbad

1.0: Ogopogo
2.0 Plague Horror

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These two dont move the needle for me - they seem too random. A good one i didnt think of yesterday would be Dr Lugae. He has his "enhancements", and he has plenty of creations he can release onto the party. Plus he was a memorable fight from the original, even if he wasnt the most dangerous thing there. By that same token, you could do something fun with the Magus Sisters too.

I guess, just to change gears here - is there anything indicating that it will be bosses from other FFs, and not just a continuation of V? I'm a little confused as to why everybody seems to think that we'll be getting stuff from other entries when the entire theme of the raid has been one game in particular, in a larger context than the bosses themselves.

Namely because they've already used Exdeath. Since he's the 'big name' enemy and 'big bad' of FFV, there's really nowhere higher to go. While it was possible that they could have been building to a Neo-Exdeath, Savage already had him appear. So with nowhere else really to go in FFV other than doing much more random, less famous bosses, it's logical that they might move to another game. Not to mention that the setup of the Omega storyline (observing many universes and reconstructing possibly fictional characters from them) provides them almost unlimited bandwidth in what sorts of classic FF bosses they can choose. I kind of hope that we don't have a situation like Neo-Exdeath again though. While it was cool to give a treat to Savage Raiders, they're already getting the Ultimate Raid series, and it's a little annoying to gate content away from Normal Raiders.

I'm not so sure I'm too keen on them reusing the same switcheroo that they used for exdeath and Ned

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Originally Posted by Frizze

These two dont move the needle for me - they seem too random. A good one i didnt think of yesterday would be Dr Lugae. He has his "enhancements", and he has plenty of creations he can release onto the party. Plus he was a memorable fight from the original, even if he wasnt the most dangerous thing there. By that same token, you could do something fun with the Magus Sisters too.

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We had a "mad scientist" boss already in like A5. Also the bosses I mentioned were the final bosses in the last dungeon that guarded the best weapons. These are probably less random than Living Liquid or Alte Roite were.

Magus Sisters would be epic, but I would want them to be a primal, honestly. But they are contenders for an FF4 themed raid.

I was going to say it should be a boss with multiple forms or phases but that doesn't necessarily have to be the case. Brute justice transformed in to his golden winged form at a certain % (the amount off the top of my head eludes me) but I recall the manipulator didn't have a massive transformation so much as extra legs.