Outdated Raids

They mentioned in the Live Letter that they can be undersized now. I'm surprised its not listed in the thread itself.
They also said something along the lines of:
All adjustments will be attached for Crystal Tower where restrictions like 2 tanks are required and so on will be lifted

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Originally Posted by SuperZay

You take a ready code from Trials Roulette and copy it. You replace all trials instance IDs with 6 raids instance IDs. Rename second copy to Raid Roulette. Attach that code as another entry in Duty Roulette menu.
Done.

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1. "You take a ready code from Trials Roulette and copy it" and hopefully get fired for your horrible practices.
2. That depends heavily on how it was implemented. What you described refers to an ideal implementation of the system (making the relevant code generic, and easily accessible, for starters) which is not guaranteed.
3. That would still require development time and then, more importantly, testing.

Yeah it's not new content that needs to be checked from scratch but it still takes time and we have no idea where it stands in their priority list.

Just been confirmed that we gonna get a 24 man raid roulette too! Woop

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Originally Posted by BillyKaplan

1. "You take a ready code from Trials Roulette and copy it" and hopefully get fired for your horrible practices.
2. That depends heavily on how it was implemented. What you described refers to an ideal implementation of the system (making the relevant code generic, and easily accessible, for starters) which is not guaranteed.
3. That would still require development time and then, more importantly, testing.

Yeah it's not new content that needs to be checked from scratch but it still takes time and we have no idea where it stands in their priority list.

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Get fired for what? If you are not familiar with programming, you don't need to rewrite all the code from zero if you want to add identical, copypasted feature to something, you copy a part of core code and alter it as needed. Rather, you'll be fired for rewriting all the code because you'll not meet deadlines.
For example, Mentor Roulette already has all 6 raids in it. For Raids roulette you take that ready, tested, working code and delete all entries which are not these 6 raids, adjusting it as needed so everyone can participate and not just mentors. Raid Roulette code ready.

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Originally Posted by SuperZay

you don't need to rewrite all the code from zero if you want to add identical, copypasted feature to something, you copy a part of core code and alter it as needed. Rather, you'll be fired for rewriting all the code because you'll not meet deadlines.

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Twelve preserve, no! I literally quit a place because the project I was assigned had a bug that existed in half a dozen locations that were effectively the same bits of code which I had to slave to find. How's that for time consuming? Copy-pasting code is not what they mean when they say code should be reusable.

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For example, Mentor Roulette already has all 6 raids in it. For Raids roulette you take that ready, tested, working code and delete all entries which are not these 6 raids. Raid Roulette code ready.

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Not precisely. Mentor roulette has different ilvl and level restrictions. It's a solo duty. Already if you copy-paste the code as you said, you'd have to make modification.
Hopefully the code used for the roulettes is sitting in a nice little function that receives all these things as parameters (# of people who can queue, party make-up, ilvl, duties in it, etc) and is easily accessible from all places relevant to this discussion. But that doesn't mean it won't have to be tested still.

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Originally Posted by Rizon

I do not know what it is like on other servers but on Hyperion it is impossible to get 1 of the Alliance Raids (ARR) through the Duty Finder. The Heavensward raids are not much better. Yet these raids are still part of Wondrous Tails. While I understand that the team wants to jin up interest these older content it does not appear to be working. Respectfully recommend to the Dev Team that they review the feasibility of their continued use in the rotation for things like Tails.

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it's the same on Moogle, i havent been able to do the raids back in time and it's such a pain now.. been trying to do the void ark for weeks now but it's impossible to tag, even alexander is hard :(
i'm happy to hear that we will have a raid roulette now, we shall see how this is going to work tho

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Originally Posted by Ayasato

it's the same on Moogle, i havent been able to do the raids back in time and it's such a pain now.. been trying to do the void ark for weeks now but it's impossible to tag, even alexander is hard :(
i'm happy to hear that we will have a raid roulette now, we shall see how this is going to work tho

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Just like the mentor roulette. CT pops and 3 people are going to drop right off the bat. Finding new players? impossible because people know not to queue as in progress, so they don't end up there lol. But I am glad everybody is excited about that new roulette.

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Originally Posted by SuperZay

You take a ready code from Trials Roulette and copy it. You replace all trials instance IDs with 6 raids instance IDs. Rename second copy to Raid Roulette. Attach that code as another entry in Duty Roulette menu.
Done.

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And accidentally queue half the party into Verminion because you didn't bother taking the time to understand what the code does or test it.

Why aren't they already in existing raid roulette?

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Originally Posted by Elleia

I think the issue is that the 24 man in the book varies person to person, and queues take so long you're better off ignoring that entry. Maybe they could make it so the 24 man slot is the same for everyone and changes each week - then at least everyone will need the same 24 man raid and queues will be faster.

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This is pretty much what needs to done with Frontline PvP. Right now it's more or less impossible to get a Seal Rock (Seize) or Borderland Ruins (Secure) match going. It has been Field of Glory (Shatter) since 3.4 for the majority of the time. Want that Field Commander armor set? Well, too bad. :/

On topic though, an Alliance Raid roulette is more than welcomed. Have 40 creation tomestones and Adventurer in Need bonus as daily rewards and I'll gladly do it.