Instant-gratification, and the "Time Sink Here, Time Sink There" song. VERY LONG

I agree 100%, give us something to work towards please.

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Originally Posted by fusional

or, you know, it's more that you're looking at a stale cheeto and saying eating that equates to eating... yeah, well. you get the picture. calling a spade a spade, yeah- it's a stale cheeto. are there better, more nutricious and tasty things out there that we could have? yep. does that make it some ridiculous extreme in awfulness? nope. could the stale cheeto be improved in some way? yep. does that mean it should magically be instantly changed into everything you've ever wanted to eat, without any work? nope. does that mean once you do get something better than a stale cheeto you're probably gonna appreciate it a lot more, especially if you had to work a little for it? yep.

tl;dr- this exaggerating/crying/flailing thing isn't helping. and if you need more evidence of that kind of reaction not helping a thing... allow me to direct you to the official blizzard english forums.

bon appetit.

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Allow me to rephrase

"hurf I suffered through a really stupid system before so you're not allowed to complain about this slightly less stupid, but still pretty stupid system"

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Originally Posted by fusional

in fancy-pants college-educated land we call that a straw man fallacy. can you post proof of me referring directly to myself and/or my experiences as being equivocal to a majority? nope, because it never happened.

if your reading comprehension skills and logical deduction skills were a little more keen, you'd understand that my reference to a majority's experience was simply a reference to precisely that. seriously, reread and stop making yourself look ignorant. it's pretty clear i'm saying that *most* people who have 80+ ifrit kills have more than 1 weapon to show for it, which would make his individual experience a what?

oh, right. an outlier.

do you know what that is? what it means?

cool. carry on, then, my logically-impaired forum friend.

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/moarchars

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Originally Posted by OMEGA_HACK

But there are not even 50 jobs in the game yet...in fact there are NO jobs in the game yet...thus that is impossible!

Side note: I had some terrible luck in FFXI (0/87 on O.Kote, never got one I just gave up on that damn item) and some really good luck on FFXI 1/1 Peacock Charm (didn't even camp it, was just running through the zone to get to another zone and saw it)

It's the beauty of /random~

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indeed. my luck with d.ring was awful. but my luck with martial abjurations, shadow mantle and shadow ring were prettttttty nice.

you just never know.

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Originally Posted by Ilean

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[SIZE="7"]LOL @ PERSON IN PIC!!!!![/SIZE]

One million thumbs up!

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Originally Posted by Brannigan

Allow me to rephrase

"hurf I suffered through a really stupid system before so you're not allowed to complain about this slightly less stupid, but still pretty stupid system"

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no need to rephrase, you can just quote me again, directly:

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Originally Posted by fusional

i'm not defending a 'broken loot system'- i haven't made any claims to it being perfect to any degree.

i am, however, pointing out that players in this game seem to have this overpowering expectation of instant-gratification borne of a self-aggrandizing sense of entitlement, and while loot may not be perfect in this game... this isn't burger king. you have the right to express your displeasure with various aspects of the game (though it would be nice if you lot could do so more constructively), but your displeasure is often founded in utter selfishness with a gross oversight towards the good of the ultimate end ffxiv game design takes.

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so, that's a pretty cool story, bro. you can keep convincing yourself i'm saying something other than i am, but there's this nagging problem of these actual words i said not matching up with the words you're attempting to say i said.

or another tl;dr for you since all of this seems incredibly hard for you to understand:

attempted injection of connotative meaning does not erase the presence of preexisting denotative meaning.

aka: your "i reject your reality and replace it with my own" defense does nothing but underscore your own delusion. continue to flail all you like, though, by all means. just don't expect me to take anything you've said remotely seriously until you're ready to actually constructively add to the discussion, kiddo.

Came in expecting a song, leave disappointed.

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Originally Posted by Zuellni

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me that the issue isn't so much the difficulty rather than the low rate at which rewards are given. Taking your football analogy into account, imagine if every time someone gets the ball through the goal post, the ref goes on random.org and generates a number to determine if that goal counted. I'm not so sure many players would bother playing football anymore.

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Omg, you hit the right shot! really <3 the post.

Yes, the issue here is that the party beat the mob, but get nothing way too often. It should count the goal, everytimes, not just generate random number to give totem. Totem supposed to be 100% if this item is given to help in those step.

Dude, fusional is obviously tanking for the OP, don't let him taunt you.

To the OP:

You want to feel accomplished? Go out and accomplish, in the real world. I assure you, the only people who will care about your FFXIV accomplishments are other FFXIV players.

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Originally Posted by CepheiMordred

You want to feel accomplished? Go out and accomplish. I assure you, the only people who will care about your FFXIV accomplishments are other FFXIV players.

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Is there something wrong with that? I don't really understand the point you're trying to make, here...