I'm enjoying the new WHM >,>

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Originally Posted by BigRed5392

healing is your utility. People forget healing is impotent, and just let ppl die.

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well, cant really help it if healing is impotent, can we?

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Originally Posted by BigRed5392

...And my g/f ...

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obligatory quote is obligatory. :D



Oh, and also, letting the tank drop to 20% is perfectly fine. So please stop talking about stuff you have no idea about. Ty <3

Good for you.

Not sarcasm, positive attitudes towards one's job is just rare to see.

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Originally Posted by Faliandra

Oh, and also, letting the tank drop to 20% is perfectly fine. So please stop talking about stuff you have no idea about. Ty <3

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There was more to that message than simply a low health tank. Low health is fine until your tank dies because you wouldn't spend a gcd to put a heal on them. Should make sure you understand the message before you reply in a condescending way.

There's no reason to let your tank float at 20% for more than a couple gcd at most, by the way. You're risking death from autoattacks at that point, particularly with multiple enemies.

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Originally Posted by tymora

Miss my stoneskin

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Ah that meaningless skill every PLD was spamming every time before a mob despite having a WHM in party.

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Originally Posted by ErryK

Since when was 100% Lily proc rate on Cure II RNG? You'll be Cure II'ing anyways, so that shield is essentially the cost of a Cure II but since you were needing that heal, and Stoneskin would've cost something like 3k MP at Lv70, you've essentially saved 3k MP... which was my point.

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If you're good you'll almost never be using Cures.

All classes/job are good. Its just different for serious raiding. The biggest issue is bad players which gives the class/job a bad rep.

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Originally Posted by basketofseals

Correct me if I'm doing this wrong, but unless I know a fight specifically calls for heavy healing, of which there are few, I'm going to blow that CD as soon as possible to maximize damage uptime.

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If you're trying to optimize you will only use your healing cds at set times, and let regens tick people back up. So you wouldn't necessarily be using it off cd.

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Originally Posted by basketofseals

It's better than stoneskin. Cure 2 into Benison, which I don't think is even that far off mana effeciency wise than a Cure 1, is a lot of potency you can fit into a single GCD while also providing a higher shield than stoneskin if your co-healer happens to be on the floor or otherwise unavailable.

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Mana efficiency isn't actually very important past minimizing OH, what really matters is GCD efficiency. If you're constantly making GCD inneficient moves like cure 2 into benison you're losing potential DPS over the course of a fight relative to something like SCH.

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Originally Posted by Kabzy

Highest personal DPS. Which is actually a thing now that they have godlike MP management. A thing for good WHMs anyway.

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This is irrelevant, WHM had no mana issues as well as the highest personal dps when Creator was on farm but was still the by far worst job in the game. The problem is that even though it's personal dps is the highest SCH alleviated the number of healing GCDs needed from both healers over the course of the fight by a significant margin, meaning the potential raidwide dps was higher if both healers knew how to heal properly. Eos is just the most efficient healer in the game since it's better than regen but doesn't take a GCD to use.CH.

whm never had mana issues just bad players play whm and dont know how to heal with whm or want to spam holy and still have mana to heal get real plus Eos was nerfd btw

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Originally Posted by grumpy

Eos was nerfd btw

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Still doesn't require a GCD to use embrace though, which is the most important part. How many GCDs does a WHM lose over the course of a fight due to casting regen that SCH doesn't?

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Originally Posted by Risvertasashi

Not free. Costs RNG tokens.

WHM does feel very fluid... but it's mostly the same as 3.0. Just with some key things like Thin Air for mass holy spam, reduced Assize CD, etc. I do mislike Largesse's 90s CD, making it less available for mechanics that line up on a minutely cycle.

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Its not RNG when Cure 2 is 100%. adjust how you heal