Allow MSQ Fast Track To Latest Expansion

It's been said but I'll just parrot it, tell em to come in now and finish it up. Not that much of a grind and if it is friends you and them should be able to plow through a lot of them with little to no issue. I even invited a bunch of new people from a discord I joined for another game and they are all currently burning through content quite quickly, granted 1 of them has an alt and started fresh on our server so he may be guiding em more but still.

If this is what it takes to get your friends playing then they might as well not play.
So to them it's get to the end or they won't play?

That's not right

If they ever add something like that I hope they charge them $200

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Originally Posted by Lexia

Unless your friends only play like one day a week they could come back now and easily have the MSQ finished by the time SB launches.

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This.

If someone is truly interested in playing with their friends then there should be little issue helping them through older content. Not only is there an option to scale down to complete it normally there's the opportunity to do so at a much higher level and item level than originally intended, making it a rather quick affair to take a friend through a particular dungeon or trial pre-50.

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Originally Posted by Belhi

This isn't entirely untrue but it is amazing how much information people dismiss as 'filler dialogue crap' and then complain later that they don't understand why something is the way it is when it was explained earlier in that dialog. That 'filler dialogue crap' is often fleshing out lore, establishing immersion and world building.

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It's amazing how often I see that in even single player games. People posting "I finished the game but it left so many things unexplained" and then every single question they have is answered in game.

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Originally Posted by Ghastly

If this is what it takes to get your friends playing then they might as well not play.
So to them it's get to the end or they won't play?

That's not right

If they ever add something like that I hope they charge them $200

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Who are you to judge what someone else wants out of an MMO? Just because you get your jollies out of a huge main quest and running around with half of your spells forever doesn't mean everyone does.

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Originally Posted by Lexia

The average MMO player. (At least the players I see coming to XIV)
https://images.rapgenius.com/66347c6...1000x562x1.jpg

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I mean... You don't advertise your new expac by saying "Go play through the last few years of old content in forgotten zones, and THEN go do the new raids with your friends!"

It's like advertising Red Mage and Samurai as these new jobs, and then telling the new players that they can't play them yet and have to go beat the game as something else first. Hmm. >_>

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Originally Posted by Belhi

it is amazing how much information people dismiss as 'filler dialogue crap' and then complain later that they don't understand why something is the way it is when it was explained earlier in that dialog.
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Again if they are happy to skip the story and accept that there are things that might confuse them.

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It's amazing the number of times I've seen players say "Oh, I don't like the story in this game at all, so I just skip past all the dialog and cutscenes." If they're skipping past it, then clearly they don't even know what the story is, so how could they possibly decide whether they do or don't like it?

Anyway, if a story jump potion were ever to be added (which I hope it never is), there shouldn't be any story summary. You play through the story and find out what the story is about, or you skip it and don't. Any summary that actually covers the plotline is going to be just as long as that plotline it's replacing, since there's hardly any filler there to begin with.

I just don't understand the "if people don't like the story they should be playing another MMORPG" mentality.

1. Clearly the entire start of my thread was pointing out individuals who want to play this game but don't want to grind the story. So by definition I'm showing that there are people who want to play this game who are not about the story. You some how know better than what they want? Like what? Just go look at the Novice Linkshell that returning players get to join currently and see all the griping about the MSQ grind. Clearly there are a lot of people in this boat. So again what on earth are you arguing when you says people who don't like the story should be playing another MMORPG.

2. I can take this silly argument to the next level and say "Well if you are so into story than you shouldn't be playing an MMORPG at all!". Please go play a single player final fantasy game instead and stop trying to force story on people who want to play an MMORPG. Yay for silly arguments.

3. Are all you MSQ enforcers sitting around at max level after you have finished the MSQ just reminiscing about the amazing adventure you had during the story? Or wait have you moved on to a different MMORPG? Cause there is clearly no reason to do any of the other stuff in this game after the MSQ is over.

4. I personally don't love or hate the story but I am here because I love the final fantasy feel of the world and classes. I love the complexity of the classes and their rotations. I love the primal fights. Hey look, people can like different things!


I also don't get this hate for jump potions. It is a win win for everyone. How is allowing others to skip the story bad for you? This only allows the game to grow because it keeps the revolving door of MMORPGs turning. People leave MMORPGs all the time but you don't want to make it difficult for new players taking their place to join. More growth and money for the developers means more and faster content for everyone. I can only think the hate from jump potions is some sort of emotional knee jerk reaction. People keep focusing on the situation with my friends and trying to provide very specific advice for that and don't see this is a problem for the game as a whole and will only become bigger with more expansions.

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Originally Posted by MomoOG

3. Are all you MSQ enforcers sitting around at max level after you have finished the MSQ just reminiscing about the amazing adventure you had during the story? Or wait have you moved on to a different MMORPG? Cause there is clearly no reason to do any of the other stuff in this game after the MSQ is over.

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Running roulettes, including leveling and Main Story, so that new players have a populated dungeon queue so they can have a good experience leveling and experiencing the dungeon content, much like the one I had while leveling.

That being said, I will always be against removal of content, as it makes little sense for the devs to waste their time on changing and removing old content for the sake of those that don't care about it in the first place, and no amount of "trimming the fat" is going to make those players care.

Implement a system for skipping, sure, but not a single word should ever be removed (hated when WoW did it, particularly since I lost some of my favorite quest lines in the process, would hate to see it happen here).

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Originally Posted by Berethos

Running roulettes, including leveling and Main Story, so that new players have a populated dungeon queue so they can have a good experience leveling and experiencing the dungeon content, much like the one I had while leveling.

That being said, I will always be against removal of content, as it makes little sense for the devs to waste their time on changing and removing old content for the sake of those that don't care about it in the first place, and no amount of "trimming the fat" is going to make those players care.

Implement a system for skipping, sure, but not a single word should ever be removed (hated when WoW did it, particularly since I lost some of my favorite quest lines in the process, would hate to see it happen here).

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I completely agree with you. I do not in any way want people who really enjoy the story to lose out on any of it. I simply want options for people who rather catch up to the latest content over doing all the old story content to have the option to do so.