Please put relevant tomes in Main Scenario Roulette

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Originally Posted by Theodric

No thanks. Poetics are required for the relic weapon quests and have provided an excellent route for me to acquire the crystal sand I need for mine combined with the level 50 dungeon roulette which also grants poetics as a reward. It doesn't need to change.

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You people really aren't getting it at all. Do y'all even read whole posts or just stop at the part you don't like and start furiously typing your displeasure at the notion? OP is asking for current tomes to be a reward IN ADDITION TO poetics. As in you get both. It's a good idea.

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Originally Posted by Clethoria

Befriend good healer, watch as everyone dies. That'll learn em'.

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I'm pretty sure the four DPS could do the encounters even without the cooperation of the tanks and healers. There is simply not that much damage going out and people are scaled down, so they are absurdly powerful relative to the content.

My FC just takes new people through CM and PT for their first time so they can enjoy the cutscenes and fights. We show them the pulls they can expect and teach them how things work. The DF is far too annoying to let someone go in their their first time using it. As far as changing what tomes, I like it how it is. No need to make something that is going to funel the "experts" into it and ruin new players experiences.

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Originally Posted by DaikiKiyoshi

You people really aren't getting it at all. Do y'all even read whole posts or just stop at the part you don't like and start furiously typing your displeasure at the notion? OP is asking for current tomes to be a reward IN ADDITION TO poetics. As in you get both. It's a good idea.

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I read the post, actually. The incentive as it is at present is perfectly fine, it doesn't need to reward better tomes because then it will simply start making the other roulette options inefficient. You can cast aside the attempts at armchair psychology. I am sure many people reading the thread will appreciate it.

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Originally Posted by DaikiKiyoshi

You people really aren't getting it at all. Do y'all even read whole posts or just stop at the part you don't like and start furiously typing your displeasure at the notion? OP is asking for current tomes to be a reward IN ADDITION TO poetics. As in you get both. It's a good idea.

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Yes, adding more rewards would get more people to do it. No disagreement there.

It would probably add to the problems that new players experience with those dungeons too. "Wait for me, I was in a cutscene." <Vote kick>

It probably makes one part of the situation better and will probably make another part worse.

Change it to a bonus for first time clears with some caveats and I think it is a better idea.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

I read the post, actually. The incentive as it is at present is perfectly fine, it doesn't need to reward better tomes because then it will simply start making the other roulette options inefficient. You can cast aside the attempts at armchair psychology. I am sure many people reading the thread will appreciate it.

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This seems rather unlikely given that the reward can only be collected once per day, and at least as I understand it, it's quite common for players to prioritize collecting all of their roulette bonuses. It's not as though it's going to be collected endlessly and people will stop queuing for level 60 dungeons as a result.

How would adding lores to the roulette start making the other roulettes inefficient... I would really like to understand what you were thinking behind this statement.

I don't see how it could make it any worse than it already is. People want to blaze through expert roulette, people want to blaze through 60 roulette, people want to blaze through 50 roulette, its not a problem created by the roulette rewards. Its a problem created by the system itself and playerbase. The only thing adding lore to the rewards would obviously do is increase the amount of people wanting to que for it. This could bring more good players and it could bring more bad players, if you focus on the negatives... You aren't going to find good in anything. I would think people farming for relic are the people with a godly amount of patience in the first place seeing as how they subject themselves to the torture (yes I am one of them).

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Originally Posted by Serilda

No, it's absurdly easy and encouraging farming just encourages new players to quit. Channel the new players towards party finder and let the days of mindlessly speedrunning Castrum with zero chance of failure or fun disappear into the past where they belong.

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The lore bonus would be once a day; part of the roulette, not the run. And people already turbo zerg it, so nothing changes in that regard.

I think people are just auguring to argue or that they really do not understand what is being said.

1. They are already pulled at max speed while ignoring people in cut scenes.
2. doing all the roulettes is manageable, in at around 2 hours, the bonuses are nice.
3. They could just give the same as leveling, 100 lore and 5 script along with the poetics.

With that said, ST stuff still is in need more with being addressing, maybe make a raid roulette and giving a bonus for it. The same applies to the old 8 Alexander's, very hard to find a group even with pf shouting with bonus come get it.

hey guys, people were speed running cm and prae since it came out. I see no issue with this suggestion.

heck even add it to the dungeons, (as in boss rewards) people complain about the weirdest things. lore farm can be tedious to just hit 60 players as not a lot of stuff open gives lore, updating gear isn't all that easy as you need to pick and choose between lore gear and relic stuff. And with oil still being 700 lore... it isn't easy for a fresh 60 to keep up.


it funny how "for the new players" people are being yet it is the same people who complain when they get cm and prae and speed run it telling players to skip cs.

again this was going on since the content was new.