If we are going to have a jump potion can we put Stone Sky Sea on steroids?

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Originally Posted by OranKells

keeps Foe up without any mages in the group, Et al.

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So this isn't what this thread is about but.... there are always 2 magic damage users in the group 100% of the time. Other magic damage users that get forgotten about are dark knight and ninja. Please play foes.

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Originally Posted by ckc22

So this isn't what this thread is about but.... there are always 2 magic damage users in the group 100% of the time. Other magic damage users that get forgotten about are dark knight and ninja. Please play foes.

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Or healers. Healers that especially love to DPS during downtime will always welcome Foe's Requiem.

EDIT: There's a ton of other things as to why players may be playing poorly. An embarrassing thing for me, but I remember when I started out, I had no idea Shroud of Saint gave me MP back. I had never encountered what "Refresh" meant; it took a very long time for me to notice it gave me back MP and no one had told me and I'm pretty sure this game makes no mention of what refresh is. Any time I see a healer struggling with MP management, that's one of the first things I'll tell them. I've gotten so many thanks just for telling them that small thing.

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Originally Posted by JunseiKei

Or healers. Healers that especially love to DPS during downtime will always welcome Foe's Requiem.

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Provided they actually do DPS. A great many healers don't.

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Originally Posted by JunseiKei

Or healers. Healers that especially love to DPS during downtime will always welcome Foe's Requiem.

EDIT: There's a ton of other things as to why players may be playing poorly. An embarrassing thing for me, but I remember when I started out, I had no idea Shroud of Saint gave me MP back. I had never encountered what "Refresh" meant; it took a very long time for me to notice it gave me back MP and no one had told me and I'm pretty sure this game makes no mention of what refresh is. Any time I see a healer struggling with MP management, that's one of the first things I'll tell them. I've gotten so many thanks just for telling them that small thing.

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That was my "there are always 2 magic damage users in the group 100% of the time" part. The Drk and Nin were addons to that.

I don't think they need to completely gate content behind a Stone, Sky, Sea performance rating. Everyone should have the option to participate in all content regardless of skill level provided they find a group to go with them.

That being said, I would like to see an option in party finder and raid finder which would allow some level of exclusion based on performance for people who are more experienced and better at their jobs (Similar to what OP is asking for). Nothing is more frustrating than sitting in party finder until you fill up only to find out that one (or more) of the players has little to no idea what they are doing at the most basic level.

Since this would only be for party finder and raid finder, the vast majority of content would not be included in it. The only things that are queued up for through raid finder are Savage level and current Extremes which is really where the problem is most perceivable as everyone must be able to play their job to a slightly above average level to have a prayer of completing the duty. I would never advocate for people being locked out of dungeons or MSQ as they only take a bit longer with sub par players and are 99% completable by any random grouping of 4 players.

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Originally Posted by Mithrahn

Could always make the 'skillcheck' reset like, once per week, or biweekly. That you have to do the skill check again to enter the 'hard' duties every week/2weeks/someperiodoftime.
Even if someone does not want to change, once you're used to doing something repeatedly, their habits will change somewhat.
They will also have to 'change' for that short period of time to get past the 'check', even if they'll be reverting later. If the check has to be done repeatedly, eventually they might not even 'go back' even if they wanted to.

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And if you put up too many barriers to be able to participate people just won't play and will unsub - including good players.

I suppose I'd be somewhat safe in assuming which forum this poster visits most frequently and how high his bar would be for this rubbish suggestion.

S^3 is good as things stand. Even if SE acceded to this ridiculous request, I'm almost certain your type won't be satisfied with that. In fact, none of you will be satisfied until the 5-10% of you is all that's left in Eorzea.

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Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh

Let's not fix what's already broken.

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Eh, just add a Proving Grounds proxy and have it be a barrier to raid/current dungeon content. Or differing difficulties thereof applying to differing content (1-30, 31-49, 50, 51-59, etc.). Where is the problem here? Not like I don't deal with bad players already. If someone asks for advice with a leaf above his head, in a SB instance, I'll happily oblige him. At least that "bad" player has the intelligence to ask for help with stuff. Beats having a manchild in current content lose his mind over being told to use cooldowns when they pull half the instance.

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Originally Posted by NolLacnala

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Ok you had your fun being cute, now say what you really feel. With actual words.