Seeking Suggestions on Laptop

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Originally Posted by Aenarion

/sigh, fail, fail, and more fail.

The only laptops that'd fail from "extensive gaming" would be the ones that are poorly designed, shoddily constructed machines that only pretends to be designed for gaming. Yes, the form factor has relatively limited thermal profile (which btw still varies greatly depending on the actual engineered design), but then again that's what mobile version of cpu/gpu are designed to work with. You get less performance, but also less heat generated. Any gaming system worth its salt will deliver the rated performance while keeping itself within the thermal envelop. And as long as chips operates within its rated temp, longevity is not an issue.

If what you claim is true, then there must be a mountain pile of complaints about failing sager/clevo, and more recently asus/msi gaming laptops by now... except there isn't. I'd strongly suggest you to actually go out and do some actual research instead of holding on to... whatever it is that led you to this rather disconnected view.


poor design and maintenance kills laptops, games doesn't.


FYI, my overclocked gaming laptop is well into its 3rd year and is doing just fine, and no, it doesn't have an ac running underneath it :rolleyes:

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I'll be honest with you, despite anything you say, the first line in your response discredits anything that follows it. You make good points, however to twinge someone on an emotional level like that is uncalled for.

In any case, laptops are meant to be light and portable. They also need longevity as power outlets aren't always readily available. If anyone ever asks for a good suggestion for a gaming laptop I will always tell them to steer clear of a laptop for that purpose. Regardless of how deep someone's pockets are, most will overheat and die. You also get almost no options to upgrade them, if they even last, for future generation gaming.

I'm happy that you've been able to maintain your laptop for gaming purposes for three years. However, I don't believe in "performance laptops" yet. I get nervous when the GPU temp breaches 90C.

I actually play FFXIV on a Sony Vaio. Mine is the VPCF119FX. It hase an Nvidia Geforce GT 330M and while I can't play with the settings all the way up, I can play with meduim to medium-high settings in windowed at full resolution. I get a pretty good framerate too.
I don't really know how mine compares to the OP's though. Any thoughts?

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Originally Posted by Issac

I'll be honest with you, despite anything you say, the first line in your response discredits anything that follows it. You make good points, however to twinge someone on an emotional level like that is uncalled for.

In any case, laptops are meant to be light and portable. They also need longevity as power outlets aren't always readily available. If anyone ever asks for a good suggestion for a gaming laptop I will always tell them to steer clear of a laptop for that purpose. Regardless of how deep someone's pockets are, most will overheat and die. You also get almost no options to upgrade them, if they even last, for future generation gaming.

I'm happy that you've been able to maintain your laptop for gaming purposes for three years. However, I don't believe in "performance laptops" yet. I get nervous when the GPU temp breaches 90C.

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Lol, need thicker skins on the internet tbh. Also, if you don't want to be called out, then perhaps you should try to learn a bit more about the subject you're talking about before passing off mere opinions as facts, which is what you're doing here again.

There are laptops that are designed for portability and long running times, and there are laptops that are designed for maximum performance in a portable form factor (those are categorized as desktop replacements), and then there are those that are designed somewhere in between. This is basic, common knowledge for anyone who's even remotely knowledgeable on the subject, which you obviously aren't, since...

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Originally Posted by Issac

Regardless of how deep someone's pockets are, most will overheat and die

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That's just flat out wrong. There's no nice way to put this, by making that kind of statement, you're either flat out lying, or just have no idea what you're talking about. Unless of course you can back up that sweeping statement with some hard facts as proof, which you can't, since they don't exist, as the statement is just not true.

Laptop has always had limited upgrade options, that's the price you pay for the portability. That said, cpu/memory/hdd and in some cases, the gpu can still be upgraded.

It doesn't really matter whether you believe performance laptop are viable or not, the fact is that they are.

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Originally Posted by Arock

I actually play FFXIV on a Sony Vaio. Mine is the VPCF119FX. It hase an Nvidia Geforce GT 330M and while I can't play with the settings all the way up, I can play with meduim to medium-high settings in windowed at full resolution. I get a pretty good framerate too.
I don't really know how mine compares to the OP's though. Any thoughts?

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the 330M isn't really suited for anything other than low end gaming, even when it's first released, much less now

9 month. Been playing this game and a lot of others with no problems. And yeah I use a cooler.

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Originally Posted by Issac

I'll be honest with you, despite anything you say, the first line in your response discredits anything that follows it. You make good points, however to twinge someone on an emotional level like that is uncalled for.

In any case, laptops are meant to be light and portable. They also need longevity as power outlets aren't always readily available. If anyone ever asks for a good suggestion for a gaming laptop I will always tell them to steer clear of a laptop for that purpose. Regardless of how deep someone's pockets are, most will overheat and die. You also get almost no options to upgrade them, if they even last, for future generation gaming.

I'm happy that you've been able to maintain your laptop for gaming purposes for three years. However, I don't believe in "performance laptops" yet. I get nervous when the GPU temp breaches 90C.

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I haven't had mine for 3 years, only about a year so far, but unless I let dust collect in the vents and start blocking things, neither the GPUs or the Desktop CPU reach 90c. UNLESS it's a very hot day. They get close for sure, no argument there. But these temps are within the manufacturers specs to NOT die for many many years. Plus most "gaming" laptops push away from the "must be portable and have long life" mentality. In fact mine won't operate for more than about 30 minutes on the battery, and that's light load. You cannot game on it whatsoever, fps will drop to like 1-5 on battery... or less. They're called Desknotes or Desktop replacements.

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Originally Posted by Aenarion

Lol, need thicker skins on the internet tbh. Also, if you don't want to be called out, then perhaps you should try to learn a bit more about the subject you're talking about before passing off mere opinions as facts, which is what you're doing here again.

There are laptops that are designed for portability and long running times, and there are laptops that are designed for maximum performance in a portable form factor (those are categorized as desktop replacements), and then there are those that are designed somewhere in between. This is basic, common knowledge for anyone who's even remotely knowledgeable on the subject, which you obviously aren't, since...



That's just flat out wrong. There's no nice way to put this, by making that kind of statement, you're either flat out lying, or just have no idea what you're talking about. Unless of course you can back up that sweeping statement with some hard facts as proof, which you can't, since they don't exist, as the statement is just not true.

Laptop has always had limited upgrade options, that's the price you pay for the portability. That said, cpu/memory/hdd and in some cases, the gpu can still be upgraded.

It doesn't really matter whether you believe performance laptop are viable or not, the fact is that they are.

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You sure like to hear yourself talk.

No, you're right. I know nothing about laptops, desktops, cellphones, web programming,or anything else remotely technical. I live in a cave with a club. Actually, my friend is typing this for me right now because I don't know how to use a computer.

Because of such, I am defeated and have nothing left to say. Congratulations, you won an argument on the internet.

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Originally Posted by Issac

You sure like to hear yourself talk.

No, you're right. I know nothing about laptops, desktops, cellphones, web programming,or anything else remotely technical. I live in a cave with a club. Actually, my friend is typing this for me right now because I don't know how to use a computer.

Because of such, I am defeated and have nothing left to say. Congratulations, you won an argument on the internet.

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lolfailtroll, need to do better :)

I don't know about how acquainted you are with technology in general, nor do I care. What's clear is that you're less than informed when it comes to high end/gaming notebooks. This is a thread where the OP is asking for advice on said notebooks, you come in and start spouting off nonsense and get upset when corrected?

Keep on believing what you will, I couldn't care less, what I don't want to see is others mislead by your false information.

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Originally Posted by Issac

Congratulations, you won an argument on the internet.

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An argument is an argument, be it on the internet or in real life. Someone being wrong or misleading with incorrect information, intentional or not, is the same be it online or off.

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Originally Posted by Aenarion

lolfailtroll, need to do better :)

I don't know about how acquainted you are with technology in general, nor do I care. What's clear is that you're less than informed when it comes to high end/gaming notebooks. This is a thread where the OP is asking for advice on said notebooks, you come in and start spouting off nonsense and get upset when corrected?

Keep on believing what you will, I couldn't care less, what I don't want to see is others mislead by your false information.

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Kay, thanks. ^^v