Shire tank gear

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Originally Posted by Mirch

I thought tanks only needed ACC as secondary stats, coz hit enemy = make aggron. and thats it lul, hold aggron is tank problem, cant hold aggron? dont tank, easy.

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That's not all. Also: hitting harder = more aggro. And the same applies to DPS, harder hitting DPS are genereating more aggro a tank has to hold.

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Originally Posted by Mirch

not enough damage on boss? dps problem
I don't think you need 3000 crit, 3000 det to beat any content ingame

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False Assumption, overallDPS is party responsability, same as damage mitigation.

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Originally Posted by Mirch

lots of peeps are too sirius bout theyre numbers demn lol as long as you get hit in da face you're an awesome tank xD

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This is just the lower bar for tanking, even for me as a casual Pleb. It's sad, that a good Part of our tankplayers don't want to be better than this.

the fact is all those propropropro suggestion are not neccessary to clear any content, u only need the accuracy, if u cant hold aggron it's your problem, don't tank, easy.

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Originally Posted by Mirch

the fact is all those propropropro suggestion are not neccessary to clear any content, u only need the accuracy, if u cant hold aggron it's your problem, don't tank, easy.

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Why would I wanna just sit there and hit my 1-2-3 combo over and over and nothing else? A tank needs to gauge their party, know when to DPS, when to mitigate, it's party wide not just on them, sure you can have just accuracy but you need secondaries. Those are very important aside from Str and Vit which are your main stats, as for aggro it's the tanks main thing to do basically the steps are:

1) Have aggro/maintain threat
2) Mitigate dmg
3) DPS

Being a good tank requires a lot out of players if you can't do all 3 you'll never be optimal and i'm talking Savage, if it's dungeons and i'm with my geared monk friend I usually do 2 threat combos then i'm outta grit to DPS while cycling CDs and getting ready for the next big pull. I dunno what "pro" strats you're talking about but doing mechanics right and DPSing as much as you can are what players do to push content healers do it, tanks do it and good DPS are already miles ahead.

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Originally Posted by Mirch

the fact is all those propropropro suggestion are not neccessary to clear any content, u only need the accuracy, if u cant hold aggron it's your problem, don't tank, easy.

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How far are you in raiding? Maybe that will shed some light. Tanks have way less excuse on DPS part VS healers because damage output is ingrained in most skills that any tank has. FFXIV is one of the few MMOs that focus more on the DPS part, hence the DPS meta, it's a different approach from other games and majority of tanks just don't get it OR probably wants to stay on the "im tank i only tank, if i want to dps i play dps" bubble.

http://i.imgur.com/ZWw1pnc.jpg

Dem meme, except that healers generally have less weight on DPS responsibility. "I AM GOOD AT TANKING", said every shit tank ever. If you are a good tank in this game, you can tank while doing decent damage.

You can hold aggro well, mitigate well, and do great dps all at the same time. Why would I want to play with a tank who can only do one, instead of all three? Sounds stupid.

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Originally Posted by Sarcatica

"I AM GOOD AT TANKING", said every shit tank ever. If you are a good tank in this game, you can tank while doing decent damage.

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This is so true it hurts, I filled in for an A11S the other week with a friend to get his page I was main tanking on my Drk doing 1600+ DPS the other tank was doing 500 as the OT, both healers were healing and we kept wiping at 10% why? Because both the tanks and the healers weren't pulling their weight I appreciate FFXIV being the game it is to allow tanks and healers DPS in the meta that we're in nothing has changed since 2.0 we still need DPS in raiding.