100,000 gil from a levequest achievement?

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Originally Posted by Gramul

And I will punch a moogle every time you do.

I've just always hated the term, even in cartoons. It's part of why I can't fully enjoy Roger Rabbit. And Richard Williams is one of my favorite animators of all time.

I find it lazy. Tactless; as some sort of callous afterthought made to lightly abbreviate an aside; to undermine a whole medium. Like the word cartoon isn't worth your tongue. Like you're somehow so great to hold yourself all of a hundred years of labor and experimentation to something that has rooted itself into the very act of modern entertainment.

And I just feel it sounds a little immature.

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ya i agree the only reason i hate the word is due to the fact it's very immature even playing wow the only one that really used the word was kids most of the old players call it char or avatar.

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Originally Posted by Zenaku

And this is why i said FFXIV and to use the terminology set for FFXIV. Toon have become main stream in WoW and any wow type game. FFXIV is more base of ffxi so it best to use that then toon and top of that it just make it sound cheap and ugly. But about the mana ya i know other ff use the word but in ffxiv it's not call that so use the right terminology for that.

But w/e i not going to fight over this anymore i just ask a request no need to get offended.

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I'm not trying to fight just point out a different way of looking at it, and i enjoy a good debate or trollbate if i must..

Anyway other FF's have both was the point i was making and in most its been you have Magic Points which come from/use mana (google), and i would be surprised if there isn't already a reference somewhere in the lore/game about mana, or if not that Skills with mana in the title never make it into game.

As for the Based of XI, not sure that could be true given SE are moving more mainstream with the game, and have said (implied might be a better word) in several ways they don't want this to be XI-2.

But the cheap and ugly.. I can see that, wow is old. XI looks cheep and ugly now too in some ways, the old EvE graphics did but again not at the time.
While I agree if you take the term in the purest possibly way the style of FXIV isn't cartoon like toon, char and character are all references to an Avatars, toon just being mainstream and linked most recently to WoW the current most successful game in many ways.

Character was just the most common when XI was out, really that's all that's happening now, toon is the most common at the time XIV has come out.

Forcing or asking people to use your terms when you understand theirs isn't really fair at the end of the day. the term Toon is not wrong used in its current context when talking about an MMO. You type character they type toon, it means the same at the end of the day.

But yeah i shall try to stop now and let the thread try and get back on topic..

An @ Gramul language evolves an has been doing so for 1000's of years.
Words change, I've been a support worker an the amount of phrases or words that older people use with a wholly difference meaning to what we use them for is breathtaking especially when/if they get into the later stages of dementia, and I'm in my 30's so I'm not exactly a kid.

Looks like another good thread is going to die the bad death due to hijacking.

Please get back on topic, I'm interested in seeing if anyone else can figure out the 100k gil reward. :)

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Originally Posted by BeePee

Looks like another good thread is going to die the bad death due to hijacking.

Please get back on topic, I'm interested in seeing if anyone else can figure out the 100k gil reward. :)

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best thing is to ask the person who got it

The Question in this thread has already been answered tho.

If anyone is actually curious, the term 'toon' predates even World of Warcraft, going all the way back to Disney's Toontown Online (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toontown_Online). World of Warcraft characters are referred to exclusively as 'characters' by that game, a monicker going back to Dungeons and Dragons (1974), at least as far as I know, probably earlier. Ultima Online, among other games, used 'Avatar', a term originating in Hinduism for a god's descent to earth. Earliest uses of that term as a character is from Lucasfilm's mainframe-based Online RPG (yes, a persistent world MMO in 1986) Habitat.

That being said, the use of 'toon' for anything other than a character based on an animated cartoon seems rather out of place, though it is fairly common. However, correcting someone for their use of one term over another is particularly banal and pedantic, and by far the more egregious offense.

Remaining on OP's topic, if faction leves need to be in a specific order to trigger a leve capable of 100k reward, that leaves little room for error, as factions are not so easily redone. A little clarity wuld be appreciated.

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Originally Posted by Duuude007

Remaining on OP's topic,

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I really do believe the real topic at hand here is Toon vs. Character.

Sigh, its "Who Framed Roger Rabbit" all over again... which, by the way, is the origin of "Toon Town".

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Originally Posted by Zenaku

i guess that my bad for asking a request about using a word but w/e i did not mean to offended or sound rude or switch over the topic so let's get back to the main topic.

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Don't worry, you were right.