Well dang, they actually listened. (Primal birds)

Would be cool now if they would remove the drop from the loottable, so whenever i see a primal mount i would know that guy did clear it 100 times and not just got lucky with one kill or bought it.

Too many. Who's gonna do 99 runs for a mount?

Now lets cross fingers they ear us regarding the mentor pegasus mount :3

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Originally Posted by Evangela

Too many. Who's gonna do 99 runs for a mount?

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99 runs against RNG, I'm game.

Curious about sephirot and nidhogg tho

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Originally Posted by Rikku1987

Curious about sephirot and nidhogg tho

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Probably in later patches, as people are still farming them actively on many servers. It seems they did the oldest ones first, then as time goes on, the others will have tokens.

A+++ Ty SE

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Originally Posted by Zojha

Aaand with the 99 tokens, you'd do 495 runs to get all 5 birds. Sounds...more than fair, really.

And yes, it is all luck - you "can" go a billion times and never even see it drop, let alone win the roll. You "can" have it drop on your first clear and win. RNG is never an achievement.
I agree that perseverance is - but for that it doesn't matter if you were successful or not in the end. Your achievement are not the 5 birds, but the 393 runs. Anyone with any combination of birds and the same amount of runs achieved the same. Some are just more or less lucky than others, hence not the same amount of birds.

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I never said I was against the 99 tokens turn in for them so if you are assuming that about me you're very wrong. I am actually happy they added that way to obtain them so that more people can enjoy the mounts. Having a set amount goal that you have to get to to get a mount will motivate more people to do the fights and get them.

It still isn't all luck though no matter how much you keep saying it...if luck alone somehow makes you actually take the time/effort to learn and go into the fight at all then it would be all luck. If you never went into the fight at all you have zero chance of getting one. Going into the fight over and over and over and joining/making farm parties everyday takes effort too which is why you cannot just claim its 100% luck for everyone.

I think you misunderstand why I consider it an achievement considering if you look at my post I never said RNG is an achievement. I said it was my own "personal achievement" that even though I kept losing rolls over and over I kept persevering and making the effort to join and make my own farm parties so I could collect all 5 birds. So you trying to tell me what my "personal" achievement is....is kind of pointless? It's personal. If you don't agree no problem, but I don't see the point in your response to me. Personal achievements are subjective. It's not really something you can refute or argue.

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Originally Posted by Celef

Now lets cross fingers they ear us regarding the mentor pegasus mount :3

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It's not happening, nor do I want it to happen. It's that high to discourage people from grinding the mentor roulette, as that would defeat the purpose of mentor roulette. It is simply a reward for mentors who worked towards it, much like the commendation rewards

I haven't been able to work up the resolve to do so much as a single extreme primal fight (ARR or Heavensward). More content that lies beyond my reach :(