So, what about tanks below 30?

The OP was surprisingly astute. I just finished grinding out a new toon to 22 in GLD for provoke today. He does okay with marauder (naturally) but playing GLD was just awful. Six dungeon runs and it was the same story. If I couldn't pop fight or flight, I wasn't going to hold anything. Not very fun.

Had no problems with aggro in normal Halatali on my DRK.

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Originally Posted by Heliantheae

I got Toto-Rak for my leveling roulette with my PLD and had no problem keeping hate.

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Originally Posted by Asierid

This thread is now about brownies in a mug. Let's make this thread at least somewhat useful.

Ingredients:
4 Tablespoons Flour
4 Tablespoons Sugar
2 Tablespoons Cocoa powder
2 Tablepsoons Vegetable Oil (screw that, be a real man and use some butter)
2 Tablespoons Water
Dash of salt
Mug (obviously)
Microwave

Mix that crap in your favorite mug and nuke it for a minute or so. At least you get something of better taste than the ideas this guy puts out.

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Instruction not clear, wiped at second cocoa powder phase.

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He forgot to mention the egg!!!!!

Wiped to a Culinarian failing their skill roll.

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Originally Posted by Galgarion

The OP was surprisingly astute. I just finished grinding out a new toon to 22 in GLD for provoke today. He does okay with marauder (naturally) but playing GLD was just awful. Six dungeon runs and it was the same story. If I couldn't pop fight or flight, I wasn't going to hold anything. Not very fun.

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That's always been the case, hasn't it? If FoF isn't available, lead with the skill with the highest enmity modifer (probably Savage Blade) regardless of combo, and flash a couple of times. The trouble at that level with Gladiator is remembering to flash liberally and use the Riot Blade combo to regen MP toward the end of each fight. I don't find anything astute about the OP because holding hate was always a pain in the ass for Gladiator, if for no other reason than we have the lowest damn attack, and enmity is based off your attack strength. Key thing for GLD, upgrade your weapon *every* chance you get, it really helps in th lower levels.

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Originally Posted by Lethallin

STR tanking damage got nerfed. Lower levels, tanks probably got a damage increase, due to their VIT being higher then their STR, and tanks generally using VIT accessories anyway.

60 VIT tanks got a big boost to damage, why would 20 VIT tanks be weaker...?

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Because the OP doesn't understand (or remember) GLD at low levels?

For anyone using only VIT this patch was a flat out buff, that includes pre 30 tanks. I haven't done any pre 30 stuff on tank since this patch hit but I imagine it will now be easier, not harder as most people new to tanking will be using VIT anyway. Personally I didn't start using strength until I was well into my 50's and during leveling hate was a joke on both WAR and DRK, PLD was harder but Flash is your best friend at those levels. Whenever I see PLD's struggling for hate at low levels it's almost always because they don't flash enough or don't use the obvious rotation properly.

There is no problem holding aggro if playing it correct. However, I will agree that it is not exactly newbie friendly and kinda backwards that you don't gain access to your tank stance before level 40, to this day i still have no idea what the thought behind that move was.

The progression on PLD is all wrong, it starts out hard, and becomes super easy as you level up.